This is vaguely related to David's posts about om/react, where he talks about optimizing state change tracking by checking object identity on immutable objects: deep compares can be avoided if same identity implies no changes.
My first thought was that there are many algorithms that will give you a new object every time, even if nothing has changed. E.g. if your state has an array whose elements must be validated, doing a map over the elements will give you a new array every time, even if it makes no changes. Enforcing non-negative values, for instance: => (let [x {:a [1 -2 3]}] (update-in x [:a] (fn [y] (mapv #(if (< % 0) 0 %) y)))) {:a [1 0 3]} In the following case the values are already non-negative, but we still get a new object: => (let [x {:a [1 2 3]}] (identical? x (update-in x [:a] (fn [y] (mapv #(if (< % 0) 0 %) y))))) false One can imagine trying to rewrite this so it passes through the vector if nothing has changed. E.g. => (let [x {:a [1 2 3]}] (identical? x (update-in x [:a] (fn [y] (reduce (fn [v i] (if (< (v i) 0) (assoc v i 0) v)) y (range (count y))))))) true => (let [x {:a [1 -1 3]}] (identical? x (update-in x [:a] (fn [y] (reduce (fn [v i] (if (< (v i) 0) (assoc v i 0) v)) y (range (count y))))))) false I expect many algorithms would need to be reworked like this in order to rely on object identity for change tracking. Is this madness? Am I thinking about this the wrong way? An interesting note here is that the next-to-last update-in, above, returned the same object. I didn't know update-in could return the same object. A simpler example: => (let [x {"a" [1 2 3]} y (update-in x ["a"] (fn [z] z))] [x y (identical? x y)]) [{"a" [1 2 3]} {"a" [1 2 3]} true] => (let [x {"a" [1 2 3]} y (update-in x ["a"] (fn [z] [1 2 3]))] [x y (identical? x y)]) [{"a" [1 2 3]} {"a" [1 2 3]} false] Is this some kind of optimization in update-in, that it doesn't create a new object if the new attribute is identical to the old attribute? Is it peculiar to the data type? Is it documented anywhere? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.