But what about a non-corperate protocol? I think that a purely acedemic/free protocol would be useful... There's tonnes of students on the Internet... if there was some separation...
Shane Jesse Kline wrote: > If you go and make a new protocol, then you will be seen as the next > AOL. Since it would not be compatible with the Internet, you would be > seen to have the "proprietary" format. And might I remind you that the > Internet was created by hackers, so there would be nothing to stop > corporations from having a large presence on any free network. > > Jesse > > On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 13:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > You know, perhaps what's needed is for the community to develop NEW protocols. The >internet has slowly become co-opted by business interests. What passes for free >exchange of information these days is pop-up ads, sold-out search engines, and the >emergence of propritory protocols (AOL, MSN, etc). > > With new protocols, could the community control communication instead of >gov't/business ? > > > > Shane > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ian Bruseker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:57 am > > Subject: RE: (clug-talk) Will Canada's ISPs become spies? > > > > > > I find the most offensive part the extensive logging of sites > > > visited.> Why should my upstream provider be keeping track of > > > which websites I've > > > > visited for the past 6 months? To combat terrorism? that's just the > > > > excuse we've now become accustomed to. I feel invaded just > > > thinking about > > > > it. > > > > > > > Personally I have a bigger problem with this part: > > > > > > "Another section of the proposal says the Canadian Association of > > > Chiefs of > > > Police recommends "the establishment of a national database" with > > > personalinformation about all Canadian Internet users." > > > > > > Holy Big Brother, Batman. So, in order to use the Internet I need to > > > register with the police the same way a sex offender does? They > > > just assume > > > I'm going to do something bad? So much for presumption of > > > innocence. At > > > least they can argue that a sex offender has a prior history, but > > > suddenlyI'm a potential criminal because I touched a keyboard? > > > Just imagine if the > > > Recording Industry Association of America (or whatever the Canadian > > > equivalent is, though we tend to just let the US do what they want > > > in our > > > country) got their hands on that database - *knock* *knock* "Hi, > > > we're from > > > the RCMP, we understand you swap MP3s, we're here to take your > > > computer."This will go way beyond just "combating terrorism". > > > Will you need to show > > > an "Internet user's license" at an internet cafe before they'll > > > let you on > > > the computers? Will businesses have to register each of their > > > staff? Will > > > the businesses then become part of the grand scheme and also have > > > to monitor > > > their staff for "bad surfing"? (Some already do, but many don't). > > > > > > Like the story says, we have until Nov 15 to email la- > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > > our thoughts. Also remember it's postage-free to send a letter to > > > yourmember of parliament at > > > > > > House of Commons > > > Parliament Buildings > > > Ottawa, Ontario > > > K1A 0A6 > > > > > > or go to http://www.parl.gc.ca/ to find your representative's > > > email address > > > (general format is [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Stephen > > > Harper's is > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], to use my own riding as an example). > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Name: signature.asc > signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature (application/pgp-signature) > Description: This is a digitally signed message part
