Well, most software is created by hackers, except maybe those vb programs :-) But tcp/ip was created as a military protocol, missile control and such, it wasn't just a bunch of hackers who said "hey, I know...".
Le Mercredi, 28 ao�t 2002, � 19:39 Canada/Mountain, Jesse Kline a �crit : > If you go and make a new protocol, then you will be seen as the next > AOL. Since it would not be compatible with the Internet, you would be > seen to have the "proprietary" format. And might I remind you that the > Internet was created by hackers, so there would be nothing to stop > corporations from having a large presence on any free network. > > Jesse > > On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 13:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> You know, perhaps what's needed is for the community to develop NEW >> protocols. The internet has slowly become co-opted by business >> interests. What passes for free exchange of information these days is >> pop-up ads, sold-out search engines, and the emergence of propritory >> protocols (AOL, MSN, etc). >> With new protocols, could the community control communication instead >> of gov't/business ? >> >> Shane >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Ian Bruseker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:57 am >> Subject: RE: (clug-talk) Will Canada's ISPs become spies? >> >>>> I find the most offensive part the extensive logging of sites >>> visited.> Why should my upstream provider be keeping track of >>> which websites I've >>>> visited for the past 6 months? To combat terrorism? that's just the >>>> excuse we've now become accustomed to. I feel invaded just >>> thinking about >>>> it. >>>> >>> Personally I have a bigger problem with this part: >>> >>> "Another section of the proposal says the Canadian Association of >>> Chiefs of >>> Police recommends "the establishment of a national database" with >>> personalinformation about all Canadian Internet users." >>> >>> Holy Big Brother, Batman. So, in order to use the Internet I need to >>> register with the police the same way a sex offender does? They >>> just assume >>> I'm going to do something bad? So much for presumption of >>> innocence. At >>> least they can argue that a sex offender has a prior history, but >>> suddenlyI'm a potential criminal because I touched a keyboard? >>> Just imagine if the >>> Recording Industry Association of America (or whatever the Canadian >>> equivalent is, though we tend to just let the US do what they want >>> in our >>> country) got their hands on that database - *knock* *knock* "Hi, >>> we're from >>> the RCMP, we understand you swap MP3s, we're here to take your >>> computer."This will go way beyond just "combating terrorism". >>> Will you need to show >>> an "Internet user's license" at an internet cafe before they'll >>> let you on >>> the computers? Will businesses have to register each of their >>> staff? Will >>> the businesses then become part of the grand scheme and also have >>> to monitor >>> their staff for "bad surfing"? (Some already do, but many don't). >>> >>> Like the story says, we have until Nov 15 to email la- >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] with >>> our thoughts. Also remember it's postage-free to send a letter to >>> yourmember of parliament at >>> >>> House of Commons >>> Parliament Buildings >>> Ottawa, Ontario >>> K1A 0A6 >>> >>> or go to http://www.parl.gc.ca/ to find your representative's >>> email address >>> (general format is [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Stephen >>> Harper's is >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED], to use my own riding as an example). >>> >>> Ian >>> >>> >> > > <signature.asc>
