Hey All, I would like to take this opportunity to thank Peter for his efforts thus far. He has done an excellent job and I hope that he will continue pursuing this endeavor. Peter I know you have been carrying around a binder of notes on the subject and I believe that congratulations are in order.
I just wanted you to know this because as an active member you are striving to make changes. I wish more people involved with Linux could _make_ the time and effort to do things like you have done. This is all part and parcel with making CLUG, the Linux and Open Source communities stronger. As we (CLUG) get more organized, we can provide these seminars and demos for people who are interested. We need more volunteers willing to help. We also need more organization to keep the ball rolling. These things take time and require resources that we don't have as of yet. We are working on it though. Keep the faith. <end of rah rah speech> Jarrod Major CLUG Treasurer Registered Linux User ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter E. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 10:28 PM Subject: Re: (clug-talk) Computer Recycling > > > On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, John Hall wrote: > > > >1) Why is it that the C.R.S. isn't jumping at the chance > > >to use Linux on any recycled computer? > > > > I took a l@@k at their (minimalist) website, and got the > > impression that they don't do much with the software. > > Does it go out with whatever happened to be on the HD? > > Surely they are not re-installing some version of Windows, > > as that would probably break licence terms, and old versions > > that would run on them are unobtainable at any price IIRC. > > Some of the technicians have told me off the record that when a copy > isn't available, they do re-install the same version of Windows, realizing > that they are breaking the licence terms. None of them have used Linux but > they sure have heard about it. I stopped encouraging them to visit CLUG > once I realized how swamped they were. > > > Does are target "market" want to "learn Linux", or > > just get some tasks done? > > This is a chicken and egg question. I think the question I was leading > towards was "After Linux is installed, who is going to support the > people we help? Is it possible to create seminars that can help those > who want to help themselves?" Not to evade the question, but perhaps this > can help: The C.R.S. "markets" their services to other societies. > > > Additional comments... > > > > We (CLUG/Recycling) need to decide who/what is our > > intended market: Schools etc with LTSP, or > > individuals (not networked (LAN), but perhaps a modem). > > Or both? > > > > Some groups/organizations that a LTSP can benefit are schools and > businesses. The Computers for Schools society is based in Ottawa and does > work across Canada and they won't return any of my messages. But guess who > does projects with them? The C.R.S. > > > If we want to set up useful Linux boxes, can we work > > with/through CCRS? If not, would they supply us with > > hardware? Do we have another source in meaningful > > quantity? > > > The C.R.S. is currently involved with projects with 16 organizations and > counting. They are short on volunteers and long on requests. They > are willing to work with other societies who already have systems and > programs in place to facilitate their own operations. They are not > interested in creating new systems or doing computer research. Their > financial resources and time are limited. You said it: "Minimalist." > > > We (CLUG/Recycling) need to decide who/what is our > > intended market: Schools etc with LTSP, or > > If CLUG were able to create its own projects, it would be easy to invite > other groups or societies to see what Linux has to offer. New ideas > or solutions would emerge as opportunities for everyone (Having just read > Jesse's comments on how newer Linux versions are better suited to work > with older computers.) > > As it stands, it is difficult to convince other groups to work with us, > when we have trouble within our own group organizing an Installfest > or seminars for newbies. > > Peter Williams > CLUG Membership #02L02203 > CLUG email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
