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Why is this such an issue right now? Every major distribution
has _several_ high performance mirrors that will outperform anything that
we could put together based on P2P with our cable and DSL lines. Yes
when a new version of a distro comes out the mirrors can be slow, but
there are a couple of things to remember:
#1 There are some sites that mirror RedHat and Mandrake that
don't list themselves on the download pages... they usually perform very
well - especially during times like this. (try finding a mirror of a
mirror)
#2 Do any of us really _need_ the newest copy of RedHat or Mandrake
the day it comes out? Try waiting a couple of days and try again :)
Just some stuff to think about.
/\/\ichael Berenbaum
-------Original Message-------
Date: September 27,
2002 12:43:42 PM
Subject: Re:
(clug-talk) 9 dot o
Could we use some sort of P2P system to distribute the
load over a number of
members? That way the bandwidth and storage
issues would not fall on just one of us.
Jesse
Quoting
Jarrod Major <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I
don't know if Jeff will catch this post so I will field it for now.
You
> may want to send a note to Jeff thought to clarify.
>
> Currently calgary.linux.ca is hosted at his home on a server
connected to
> his home DSL. Bandwidth will most likely be a huge
issue. I doubt that he
> will consent to such a request.
>
> With hardware being so cheap (especially hard drives) storage
should not be
> an issue. I have been trying to maintain the
Distribution Library on the
> CLUG site so that folks know who to
approach for the various copies of
> Linux
> from the various
members such as myself who have access to a CD-ROM burner
> and are
more than happy to burn copies as long as they are provided
blanks.
>
> Until we have more resources at our disposal this
is probably the way it
> will remain but I could be wrong. There are
lots of industrious folks who
> have some astounding
resources.
>
> Jarrod Major
>
> ----- Original
Message -----
> From: "Kevin Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 11:11 AM
> Subject: Re: (clug-talk)
9 dot o
>
>
> > How feesable is it to set up an FTP
on the CLUG site so that once ONE of
> us
> > DL's
something, the rest can grab a copy from them? IE: If I get RH8 on
>
> Monday, I can immediately UL it to ftp.clug.com (or whatever), and
then
> if
> > other members wanted a copy, they could DL as
appropriate. As a sort of
> > CLUG-only mirror, sort of.
>
>
> > What are the limitations to such a proposal. I'm sure
Disk Space, but
> that
> > isn't insurmountable. We don't
really want to mirror old versions, so
> lets
> > just say
that as a policy, we'll mirror the 2 most recient versions of
> >
versions of whatever (Gentoo, RH, Debian, Mandrake, Suse, Smoothwall,
and
> > maybe two or 3 more.) What's our Bandwidth limitation
and.or Bandwidth
> > useage look like? Can we do this?
>
>
> > Even if we held 2 copies of 10 Distros, each averaging 3
Gigs, we'd end
> up
> > with 60 Gigs of Disk Space. Which
isn't much. That's what a 5-10 dollar
> > donation from each of
the active members on this mailing list? We'd
> clearly
> >
all benefit.
> >
> > Is this an idea worth
pursuing?
> >
> > Kev.
> >
> >
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jesse
Kline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 9:12 AM
> > Subject: Re:
(clug-talk) 9 dot o
> >
> >
> > > Thanks for
the offer, but I was able to download it from 3 mirrors last
> >
night.
> > > Now I am looking forward to getting home from
work and burning those
> babys
> > on CD.
> >
>
> > > Jesse
> > >
> > > Quoting
Trevor Lauder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >
> > > > I'm downloading Mandrake 9.0 as I type
this email actually. If you
> want
> > I
> > >
> can setup a ftp account for you on my server when I get it
downloaded
> > > > (Should be done in 5 hours or so). If
not, I can always burn you a
> > > > copy... let me know.
The mirror I always use for most of my linux
> > distro
>
> > > downloads is ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch I
usually get 300+ K/s
> from
> > > > them but since
Mandrake came out I'm only getting 50 K/s
> > > >
>
> > > Later,
> > > >
> > > >
Trevor
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks everyone,
I feel pretty confident about installing 9.0 now.
> The
> >
> > > only thing left is to get it. Does anyone know of any
working
> mirrors?
> > > > >
> > >
> > Jesse
> > > > >
> > > > > On
Thu, 2002-09-26 at 11:06, S�bastien Taylor wrote:
> > > >
>> I'm pretty sure mandrake let's you flag a partition so that
it
> > > > >> doesn't format it..at least it should
have it, every other os has
> > it.
> > > >
>> I would just stick the cd in, and boot it up, tell it to
format
> the
> > > > >> old partitions but
leave /home as is.
> > > > >>
> > > >
>>
> > > > >> Jesse Kline a �crit:
> >
> > >> > Ya, I already have a seperate /home partition. So
If I were to
> just
> > > > >> wipe out
my
> > > > >> > other partitions, and create new
ones with the MDK installer,
> and
> > > > >>
do a full
> > > > >> > install, will it leave my
/home partition alone? I just don't
> want
> > > >
>> to see that formatting all partitions window :-).
> >
> > >> >
> > > > >> > Jesse
>
> > > >> >
> > > > >> > Quoting
S�bastien Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > >
>> >
> > > > >> >
> > > >
>> >>That could work, except for the fact that, and I quote
"No, I do
> > > > >> have a separate /home
partition." ;-) Problem solved!
> > > > >>
>>
> > > > >> >>
> > > >
>> >>Dan Graham a �crit:
> > > > >>
>>
> > > > >> >>>Hi Jesse,
>
> > > >> >>>
> > > > >>
>>>1. Delete all but your /home dir.
> > > >
>> >>>2. Resize what is left with Mandrake's partition
resizing tool
> > > > >> (hacked parted)
> >
> > >> >>>3. Name this /home
> > > >
>> >>>4. Create the rest of your partitions as per.
>
> > > >> >>>5. Do a full install as
required.
> > > > >> >>>
> > >
> >> >>>I just did this with RC3 9.0 for my buddy Howard
who had a ton
> of
> > > > >> stuff on one big
/ partiton.
> > > > >> >>>No
problem.
> > > > >> >>>
> > >
> >> >>>Cya, Dan
> > > > >>
>>>
> > > > >> >>>
> >
> > >> >>>
> > > > >>
>>>-----Original Message-----
> > > > >>
>>>From: S�bastien Taylor
> > > > >>
>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > > >> >>>Sent: 9/25/02 7:04 PM
> >
> > >> >>>Subject: Re: (clug-talk) 9 dot o
>
> > > >> >>>
> > > > >>
>>>Oh, good, that's easy, you just tell it what partition you
want
> to
> > > > >> use as home, and then turn
off the format option. Not sure
> > > > >> _exactly_
how to do that, I don't use Mandrake, but pretty much
> > >
> >> every installer let's you do that. The option might also
be
> > > > >> called "Mount previously formated
partition" something like that
> is
> > > > >>
what you want...it should be pretty obvious.
> > > >
>> >>>
> > > > >> >>>Make
sure you still back up what you can't afford to loose!!
> > >
> >> >>>
> > > > >>
>>>
> > > > >> >>>Le Mercredi, 25
sept 2002, � 18:20 Canada/Mountain, Jesse Kline
> a
> >
> > >> �crit :
> > > > >>
>>>
> > > > >> >>> > No, I do
have a separate /home partition. What I want to do
> is
> >
> > >> reinstall
> > > > >> >>>
> the system (on the root partition) without touching my /home
>
> > > >> partition (which does exist). I'm sure that I read
somewhere
> > > > >> that you can do
> >
> > >> >>>this
> > > > >>
>>> > with Mandrake, I'm just wondering how?
> > >
> >> >>> >
> > > > >>
>>> > Jesse
> > > > >> >>>
>
> > > > >> >>> > On Wed, 2002-09-25
at 18:18, S�bastien Taylor wrote:
> > > > >>
>>> >> You mean you didn't put your /home on it's own
partition??
> > > > >> Shame on you
> > >
> >> >>> >> ;-) If you didn't you should back it
up and do it this
> time,
> > > > >> or else
you can just delete everything else then install on the
> > >
> >> sorta-clean drive. Or, finally, you could just try
to
> > > > >> upgrade...
> > > >
>> >>> >>
> > > > >>
>>> >>
> > > > >> >>>
>> Le Mercredi, 25 sept 2002, � 18:00 Canada/Mountain, Jesse
>
> Kline
> > > > >> a �crit
> > > >
>> >>> >> :
> > > > >>
>>> >>
> > > > >> >>>
>>> I really want to have the latest and greatest, but
I'm
> trying
> > > > >> to figure
> >
> > >> >>> >>> out the best way to go about
this. I know that upgrades
> are
> > > > >> not
always
> > > > >> >>> >>> the best
solution, but I have large video files on my
> /home
> >
> > >> >>>partition
> > > > >>
>>> >>> that aren't economical to backup on CD. Is there
a way to
> get
> > > > >> Mandrake
> >
> > >> >>> >>> to install over the /
partition without touching my /home
> > > > >>
partition?
> > > > >> >>>
> > >
> >> >>> >>> Or
> > > > >>
>>> >>> is there a way to do a Debian-style upgrade
using urpmi?
> > > > >> >>>
>>>
> > > > >> >>> >>>
Thanks,
> > > > >> >>> >>>
>
> > > >> >>> >>> Jesse
> > >
> >> >>> >>>
> > > > >>
>>> >>> On Wed, 2002-09-25 at 16:32, Dan Graham
wrote:
> > > > >> >>>
>>>>
> > > > >> >>>
>>>> Hi all,
> > > > >> >>>
>>>>
> > > > >> >>>
>>>> The new Mandrake 9.0 "Dolphin" has been released.
>
> > > >> >>> >>>>
> > >
> >> >>> >>>> cya
> > > >
>> >>> >>>
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