Jarrod,

Don't know about webmin, but from the command line, "free" will show you the
first output, and "df" will get you the second output ("df -h" for that
exact output style - "-h" for human readable).

Ian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jarrod Major [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 3:53 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help
>
>
> Hey Jason,
>
> I hate to show my ineptitude but how do you get this? Are there commands
> that I have to use or is this copied from the web admin?
>
> Keep in mind that I haven't actually put this into my network
> yet. Or maybe
> that's what you are after? Virgin settings sans logs.
>
> Jarrod
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason Van Dellen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 3:54 PM
> Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help
>
>
> I'm not sure about IPcop,
>
> But here's a printout from one of my Smoothwall boxes Memory and
> Disk Usage:
>
> Memory:
>
>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
> Mem:         30736      28848       1888      18200       5648       8400
> -/+ buffers/cache:      14800      15936
> Swap:        17132          0      17132
>
>
> Disk usage:
>
> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda4             380M   46M  315M  13% /
> /dev/hda1             5.7M  2.3M  3.1M  42% /boot
> /dev/hda3              97M  9.7M   82M  11% /var/log
>
>
>
> Jarrod, do you think you can do the same, I'm curious to see.
>
> Jason
>
> On Wednesday 27 November 2002 23:01, you wrote:
> > Just out of curiosity, what is the size of Smoothwall and or IPcop?
> >
> > Kevin Anderson wrote:
> > >And how does IPcop "feel" compared to Smoothwall?
> > >
> > >Kev.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: "Jarrod Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 9:02 PM
> > >Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help
> > >
> > >>Hey Guys,
> > >>
> > >>Just wanted to drop a quick note to let you know that I got IPCop
> > >>downloaded, verified and installed. Recognized the cards right off the
> > >
> > >bat.
> > >
> > >>Your guess is as good as mine as to why the SmoothWall install failed.
> > >>
> > >>Anyway, wanted to report a success. The end config is as follows:
> > >>
> > >>Dell P233
> > >>64 Mb SDRAM
> > >>1 Gb HD
> > >>SMC Ethernet 10BaseT NIC
> > >>RealTek 8139 10/100BaseT NIC
> > >>
> > >>Red & Green setup
> > >>
> > >>Now the fun of phasing out my old Gateway...
> > >>
> > >>Jarrod Major
> > >>CLUG Treasurer
> > >>Registered Linux User: #224211
> > >>
> > >>----- Original Message -----
> > >>From: "Jarrod Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 4:15 PM
> > >>Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help
> > >>
> > >>>Hey Kev,
> > >>>
> > >>>It appears that they have been patching it. I'm not sure
> when the last
> > >>
> > >>patch
> > >>
> > >>>was posted but I do have all the ones that needed to be applied to
> > >>>SmoothWall. I think I will have to give IPcop a go for sure. It seems
> > >
> > >that
> > >
> > >>>these guys have taken the torch and run with it.
> > >>>
> > >>>I'll post my results to the list.
> > >>>
> > >>>Thanks again guys!
> > >>>
> > >>>Jarrod
> > >>>
> > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > >>>From: "Kevin Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>>Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 3:56 PM
> > >>>Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help
> > >>>
> > >>>>The fork is called IPcop.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>I haven't done much more than see either, but it might help.
> > >
> > >Smoothwall
> > >
> > >>>GPL
> > >>>
> > >>>>seemed old, the last time I checked.  Not that that is a bad thing,
> > >
> > >but
> > >
> > >>it
> > >>
> > >>>>made me worry that they weren't really supporting it anymore.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Kev.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>From: "Jarrod Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:40 AM
> > >>>>Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>Hey Doug, Jason, Kevin and Graham,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>I am using SmoothWall GPL 0.9.9 SE and I have the patches for it as
> > >>>
> > >>>well.
> > >>>
> > >>>>>Yes I believe it has been forked but this is the most recent stable
> > >>
> > >>GPL
> > >>
> > >>>>>version. There is a beta but I wanted to stay away from that for
> > >
> > >now.
> > >
> > >>>>>Kevin I believe the Fork is one they are charging for so I don't
> > >
> > >think
> > >
> > >>>>that
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>will do. If you find something that is still GPL let me know.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Yes, we had tried setting SmoothWall up with only one NIC in at a
> > >
> > >time
> > >
> > >>>to
> > >>>
> > >>>>>see if we could isolate it. This also did not work.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Thanks for the link Doug, I may try LRP but I wanted something
> > >
> > >robust
> > >
> > >>>>enough
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>to handle some tricky stuff. The P90 and P166 only have about 32Mb
> > >
> > >RAM
> > >
> > >>>so
> > >>>
> > >>>>>I'm not sure if they would be able to run LRP. The P233
> has 64MB and
> > >>>>
> > >>>>appears
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>to be a more likely candidate. I may check this out.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Good questions and suggestions guys.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>BTW, Graham, I too have heard that RealTek's can be flaky
> but I have
> > >>>
> > >>>used
> > >>>
> > >>>>>them in all my computers and they seem to work fine. If you want to
> > >>>
> > >>>check
> > >>>
> > >>>>>your DLink card to find out whether it is a RealTek card it should
> > >
> > >be
> > >
> > >>>>fairly
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>obvious, the chip should have rtl followed by either 8129
> or 8139 on
> > >>
> > >>it
> > >>
> > >>>>for
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>the 10BaseT or 10/100BaseT respectively. I know that some
> cards by a
> > >>>>>particular manufacturer spontaneously change chipmakers during the
> > >>>
> > >>>course
> > >>>
> > >>>>of
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>a NIC card's lifespan. It starts out as a RealTek then they get
> > >>>
> > >>>something
> > >>>
> > >>>>>else. So when you think you using a card that has good
> Linux support
> > >>
> > >>for
> > >>
> > >>>a
> > >>>
> > >>>>>particular chipset and the manufacturer changes you are hooped. I
> > >>
> > >>always
> > >>
> > >>>>>check my hardware. The better support sites not only list the
> > >
> > >hardware
> > >
> > >>>but
> > >>>
> > >>>>>even go so far as to list chipsets to offset this issue.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Jarrod
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>>From: "Graham Monk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:19 AM
> > >>>>>Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>Jarrod Major wrote:
> > >>>>>>>I decided to try my hand at making a home firewall/gateway.
> > >>>
> > >>>SmoothWall
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>seemed to be the distro of choice. I had two computers that were
> > >>>
> > >>>likely
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>candidates for the job an IBM Aptiva P166 and a Packard Bell P90.
> > >>>
> > >>>Both
> > >>>
> > >>>>>still
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>very serviceable. I also have a small collection of Linux-proven
> > >>>
> > >>>NIC's
> > >>>
> > >>>>>that
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>I thought would work just fine in this application.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>After several attempts on these two boxes, I ended up picking up
> > >
> > >a
> > >
> > >>>Dell
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>Pentium 233. This computer also seems to not want to take to
> > >>>
> > >>>installing
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>SmoothWall. I have checked the SmoothWall site for hardware
> > >>>>
> > >>>>compatibility
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>and the NIC's for the most part appear to be supported. Here's a
> > >>
> > >>list
> > >>
> > >>>>of
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>what I have and the Linux driver module typically used:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>PCI
> > >>>>>>>RealTek 8139 10/100 - rtl8139
> > >>>>>>>RealTek 8129 10 BaseT - ne2k-pc / ne2k / ne
> > >>>>>>>SMC EtherPower - tulip
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>ISA
> > >>>>>>>Intel EtherExpress 16 - eexpress
> > >>>>>>>3Com ?? - ??
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>All three computers will get to the Green NIC probe phase and
> > >
> > >fail.
> > >
> > >>>The
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>probe will not autodetect the cards. I have gone into manual mode
> > >>
> > >>and
> > >>
> > >>>>>given
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>it the appropriate module, IO and IRQ. All to no avail. These
> > >
> > >cards
> > >
> > >>>>have
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>all
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>worked under Windows not very long ago and some have even run
> > >>>
> > >>>perfectly
> > >>>
> > >>>>>fine
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>under other distributions of Linux. I am very careful with my
> > >>>
> > >>>hardware
> > >>>
> > >>>>so
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>I
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>cannot believe that they could all be bad.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>The ISO I used for burning my SmoothWall disc was checked against
> > >>
> > >>the
> > >>
> > >>>>MD5
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>Checksum and it was verified.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>I cannot believe that three computers would all refuse to take
> > >
> > >this
> > >
> > >>>>>install
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>with various NIC's in place. I enlisted Marcel's help and he
> > >
> > >could
> > >
> > >>>not
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>overcome my install issues either. We're both stymied.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>Anyone have any experience they'd like to share or any advice?
> > >>
> > >>Thanks
> > >>
> > >>>>in
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>advance.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>As an aside, we even attempted to throw OpenBSD on one of the
> > >
> > >boxes
> > >
> > >>>and
> > >>>
> > >>>>>it
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>crapped out almost immediately. We were pretty tired at this
> > >
> > >point
> > >
> > >>so
> > >>
> > >>>>we
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>did
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>not delve too deeply into this install. It was a floppy/FTP
> > >>
> > >>install.
> > >>
> > >>>>>>>Jarrod Major
> > >>>>>>>CLUG Treasurer
> > >>>>>>>Registered Linux User: #224211
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Hi Jarrod
> > >>>>>>I fear I may make myself look stupid here but anyway,
> > >>>>>>I had problems with smoothwall myself using Dlink cards
> > >>>>>>which are supposed to use realtek chips but do something weird
> > >>>>>>with them. I found that startec S100 works well.
> > >>>>>>Suggestion,.... Try installing with only one card ( first one then
> > >>
> > >>the
> > >>
> > >>>>>>other)
> > >>>>>>This should at least isolate which card is causing problems,
> > >>
> > >>assuming
> > >>
> > >>>>>>this is not something you have allready tried.
> > >>>>>>Graham
>
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