It's a change of format between a forum and a mailing list - that's all really. Change takes time to get used to if people are willing to give it a chance.
Thanks,
Andrew
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Clement [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 8:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (clug-talk) Website and Forum?
I think the BB is a good idea but I also know that I wouldn't want to
use it for day to day.
It is a bit annoying having to fire up a browser, hop over to some site
to read messages when I could just use the e-mail app I've already got
open. (mostly since I'm on a slow machine and mozilla crawls).
I think this is what most people opposed to the BB are trying to say.
Jeff
Andrew Barnes wrote:
> I've seen responses from roughly 7 other people - I hardly consider
> that a consensus.
>
> Secondly, there is no proof that a question takes longer to answer on
> a forum - NONE. Pardon, but I'm getting irritated with responding to
> the same comment that has no basis in fact much less experience.
>
> Third, how does increasing the viewability and functionality of a
> support communication take away from helping? Most visibility == more
> exposure; More exposure == more people helping...
>
> Fourth, I want to read a topic but I'd like it organized rather then
> helter skelter in my email folder. Filters don't tell me what's worth
> reading and what isn't - I do.
>
> Fifth, sticking to email solely because you have used it in the past
> is no legitimate response either. I've been away until now so I
> couldn't reply to what is claimed to be "benefits" of email.
>
> The point is *you* made up your mind, not everyone else. But thanks
> for letting us know.
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesse Kline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 6:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: (clug-talk) Website and Forum?
>
> It seems to me that the general consensus is that there is absolutely no
> point to have a BB. Sure it MAY make it easier for newbies, but most of
> us would not check the web site every hour if at all. It would take a
> long time (if ever) for anyone to get their questions answered. Also a
> mailing list is not the most complicated thing in the world, and most
> newbies know e-mail. As for volume, we are not a large group and adding
> discussion forums would only take away from the amount of help that you
> are going to get. We already have an archive and if you don't want to
> read an e-mail thread, then just delete it!
> There are thousands of ways that we have invented to communicate with
> each other. To say that we should use another form of communication just
> because it exists doesn't hold any weight with me. What's next are we
> going to run string to everyones house and attach a tin can to every end
> just because some asshole doesn't want to use a computer?
> I think we have established that adding a web based forum is not the
> best idea, and that a news forum is not good either because there are a
> thousand other Linux portals and CLUG is not trying to be one of them.
> Plus with the amount of news that we as a group has, it would also not
> warrant a BB for this either.
>
> My $1.50 :-)
>
> Jesse
>
> On Fri, 2002-12-06 at 16:19, Andrew Barnes wrote:
> > Once again - exactly what makes a forum so unwieldly? It takes the
> same
> > effort merely directed in a different manner. More to the point
> would be
> > that you are afraid of change. The only way a forum ends up not being
> > visited is if those who began it don't continue to support it and
> foster the
> > community - the onus is on us.
> >
> > I didn't misunderstand you, because the statement was not yours but
> > Christain's.
> >
> > All for the "newbies" issue, I did not say you were beholden - that
> your
> > misunderstanding. My point was there has been an underlying tone of
> wanting
> > separation from newcomers - even in the meeting on this past
> Wednesday, the
> > statement was made about "not dealing with newbies". I would then
> not be
> > the one "making it difficult" for others to partake - rather, *I'm*
> the one
> > who is offering suggestions for how to become more inviting.
> >
> > As for this "healthy mix" not working on a forum, then I guess you
> aren't
> > aware of forums like [H]ardOCP.com, Anandtech.com, MaximumPC,
> ExtremePC just
> > to name a few. A mailing list and a forum are the same thing, only
> > approached differently and vary only slightly on issues - the
> people make
> > the difference, not the medium.
>
