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On Sunday 12 January 2003 10:45, Dave Lee wrote:
> Jesse Kline wrote:
> > > this is similar to the situation in mac osx, where pretty much nobody
> > > logs in as root from my experience despite it having the exact same
> > > issues.
> >
> > That wasn't the impression that I got
> > http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/05/06/0348213&mode=thread&tid
> >=179

well, /. is, uh, /. ;-) but more seriously, that article looks like the guy 
was looking for ways to convince some rather less-than-clueful people rather 
than making a statement about most/all mac osx users.. 

the osx users i've observed (which, granted hasn't been hundreds or even 
dozens..) just go in as their user... too many hoops for most people to jump 
through, ala:

> <getting off topic a bit>
> I just got an ibook, and by default, and for the root account, login is
> disabled, and the first user created is setup to be an admin, which means
> they have full sudo access (All).  When an gui app requires root, a dialog
> box appears asking for your password.  So anybody using osx, would have to
> explicitly enable logins on the root account, when the need really isnt
> there.  I dont know how long this has been the case, but I havent found
> any need to enable the root account.

as i said in an earlier mail, it's the mid-level users that scare me: they 
know enough to change defaults (even when it means going through hoops) but 
often lack the sense not to... 

this segment messes things up no matter what OS they use =/ fortunately they 
are the vast minority, probably only slightly more populous than clueful 
power users overall...

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Aaron J. Seigo
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"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler"
    - Albert Einstein
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