You can also just use a boot floppy, and download the stage-? at install
time.

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=8690

Kev.


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From: "Trevor Lauder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: (clug-talk) recommendations for a web server


> Jarrod Major said:
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> > I suppose I should take a gander at Gentoo to be fair. Trevor are you
> > coming
> > to the meeting tonight? If so, can I get a copy from you? Save me from
> > downloading another ISO.
> >
>
> Unfortunately, I had something come up tonight around that time that is a
> much higher priority.  I'm quite disappointed about it since I was looking
> forward to this months presentation when it was mentioned a few days ago
> :(
>
> As for the Gentoo CDs, I don't have the latest ISO image on me.  Gentoo is
> much like Debian in that emerge will keep your system updated the same way
> apt-get does.  You don't need to worry about downloading the latest
> version and upgrading, emerge can take care of upgrading the software you
> have installed and you're done.  Now you could use an older ISO image, but
> depending on which stage tarball you choose to use, it may increase the
> number of packages you have to recompile off the start and upgrade.
>
> The ISO for Gentoo isn't that big though.  If you want to start from
> scratch and compile everything then you need the stage 1 tarball.  A
> bootable Gentoo livecd with the stage 1 tarball can be found:
>
ftp://sunsite.ualberta.ca/pub/unix/Linux/gentoo/releases/1.4_rc4/x86/x86/liv
ecd/gentoo-basic-x86-1.4_rc4.iso
>
> The stage 1 tarball livecd is only around 68 Meg.  You can also download:
>
ftp://sunsite.ualberta.ca/pub/unix/Linux/gentoo/releases/1.4_rc4/x86/x86/liv
ecd/gentoo-3stages-x86-1.4_rc4.iso
> which is a livecd that contains all 3 stage tarballs and you can use
> whichever one you want.  That ISO is only around 220 Meg.
>
> Here is a basic rundown on the stages:
>
> Stage 1: You start from scratch, pretty much the only step here is
> bootstrapping the system.  The bootstrap process "builds binutils, gcc,
> gettext, and glibc, rebuilding binutils, gcc, and gettext after glibc".
> This takes a bit :)
>
> Stage2: You start off with a bootstrapped system, now you need to install
> the rest of the system software that makes up a basic Linux system.
>
> Stage3: You start off with a bootstrapped system, and system software is
> already installed.  However, you will need to update some of the software
> since the versions on the ISO are probably out of date already.
>
> You can read through the install doc at:
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml before you start if
> you want to get an idea on the steps involved.  I should also note that if
> you start off with a stage 2 or stage 3 tarball, your system won't be as
> fully optimized from the start for your CPU.  Since 1.4 is still in rc
> stage, they haven't released stage 1, 2, and 3 tarballs for each CPU yet
> (ie, Pentium, Pentium2, K6/2, Pentium3, etc).  Once 1.4 reaches final they
> will do this, but for the time being stage 2 & 3 will be pre-optimized for
> generic x86.  If you want to compile for your PII then you will need to
> start with a stage 1 tarball.
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Trevor Lauder
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