On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 08:56, Ian Bruseker wrote:>
> Ah, and now we get to my reason for asking the question.  I noticed that 
> RedHat now includes quite a number of redhat-config-* tools for admin stuff 
> like configuring Apache, adding users, etc.  But when I tried to run one in 
> the terminal, it complained about the lack of an X display.  From my limited 
> experience with SuSE, I'm pretty sure YaST works in either X mode or curses 
> mode.  Could this be what you mean by a "good distro"?  ;-)  I was curious 
> what the group thought, since it seems clear that RedHat is steering people 
> towards X.  Maybe they're just working on the assumption that those who would 
> use those tools come from a Windows world and are used to the hand-holding.  
> 
> For the record, vi is my administration tool for everything.  :-)  One of the 
> things I like about Linux compared to Windows in a server environment is that 
> I have the choice of not wasting resources on a graphical interface I'll 
> rarely if ever see.  I ssh around a lot.  But I have the potential to be lazy 
> on occasion, so I was wondering about other tools for administration, which 
> is what led me to the redhat-config tools, which in turn led me to ask the 
> question.

Some of the redhat-config-* tools will run in the console like the
printer-tui app. I think most of them do require X, but for most tasks
there should be console commands that have similar functionality. I have
X installed on my server, bu I still boot into runlevel 3. There are a
couple reasons for this. First of all I can use it as a backup for my
workstation. If someone is using my workstation then I can fire up X and
surf the web, or log into my workstation over ssh and launch my e-mail
app. I also like it for administration. Sure I can do most tasks from
the console, but if I can do it in half the time from the gui, then why
not? Most of the time I log into the server over ssh, and most of the
time I don't use X apps. But with the X libraries installed I don't need
to run X to run an X application, I often use up2date or edit users via
the gui tools. All we're really talking about here is disk space, and
that's pretty cheap these days.

Jesse
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Jesse Kline, RHCT

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