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On February 13, 2004 10:53, Jason Hayes - HHC wrote:
> Now what is your take on Win4Lin?

Win4Lin is quite fast and rather reliable. As it runs the whole OS it supports 
(pretty much) all the apps for that OS. WINE, on the other hand, only 
supports apps that use the parts of the win32 API that have been implemented 
in the WINE libs.

it's all downhill for Win4Lin from there, however.

you need a Windows license from MS to run it in Win4Lin. i'm not particularly 
in favour of that, and it increases the costs involved.

running everything _in_ a window that pretends to be the screen is pretty 
lame. i prefer my windows to be rootless and to work with my window manager, 
thank you very much. alt-tab should just work, i shouldn't have to worry 
about which window my mouse is over (for instance)

and finally, having a full blown Windows install should really be a last 
resort. why bother using a Free OS if you are just going to run closed source 
apps and, worse, a closed source OS? yes, sometimes we don't have the option 
because there are times when the only application that will do is a closed 
source application.

in your case that's Dreamweaver and Fireworks. you noted that the GIMP may 
suffice; and as for Dreamweaver, well .... have you tried alternatives? do 
you really need that proprietary lock in software?

i find your choice of Windows for web devel to be particularly puzzling. 
see... the biggest thing i like about doing web dev on Linux is how easy and 
convenient it is to have the RDBMs, Web Server, mod_* extensions and all the 
other tools running on the SAME machine that i'm developing on. edit a file, 
save, reload the page in the web browser, rince, repeat... with multiple 
desktops ()code on 2, browser on 1) the key strokes are: Ctrl-S, Alt-F1, F5, 
Alt-F2.... some of this is possible in Windows as well, but not nearly as 
conveniently or cleanly. which is probably why virtually all the 
Windows-based web developers i've known use one machine to devel on and view 
the results on a "server" somewhere else on the network. now, if you do your 
devel in Win4Lin you've just removed most of benefit of running Linux. what 
bullocks!

as an interrum arrangement relying on closed software can be a way to make 
transition possible. but that's what it should be, transition. there are 
better ways to work in Linux and there is more Freedom to be had to boot.

ok, rant mode off ;-)

- -- 
Aaron J. Seigo
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