Hi Andrew,

Windows doesn't come with SMTP (Mac OS/X probably not either) , that's just one reason why ISP's have to provide servers. In addition, some ISP's and other mail administrators have started to refuse email from dynamic IP addresses. So, for example, you can't send email to AOL email users, using your own Linux based SMTP server.

And if you are coming in from a known dialup (i.e. not broadband) IP address even more mail servers will refuse your traffic.

I like the idea of mail servers rather than every client doing their own mail sending. For example, as soon as my mail server has accepted my email, I can disconnect my client machine. Especially important for dialup users and for mobile (laptop) users.

The server will keep trying to deliver my mail even while may client machine may not be on the air anymore. This is important for situations, where the ultimately receiving server is temporarily unavailable (network, hardware or software problems).

...Niels





Andrew Graupe wrote:

Niels Voll wrote:

thanks for the links, Scott - so we have confirmation!

I really hate it, when organizations / people are too lazy to think, and apply global restrictions even to the innocent people, rather than restricting only the guilty parties. It should not be that difficult to differentiate a spam relay/proxy from a legitimate email user. (traffic volume for one ...)

Shame on Telus !

So far, Shaw is behaving much better...


I doubt it will continue for much longer.
One more thing: why do ISPs still maintain SMTP servers? It's not too hard to set up a SMTP server for local use (at least on linux).





Scott Zuk wrote:

On July 14, 2004 11:53 am, Niels Voll wrote:


Has anyone else had problems with their email, specifically port 25 SMTP
in the following situation?


* email client is on Telus ADSL
* SMTP server is outside of the Telus network (e.g. Shaw or other)

I know on sendmail SMTP, one can configure it, to listen on port 587 in
addition to port 25; Postfix and Qmail may have something similar.


...Niels



Hi,

Read these useless Telus bulletins:
http://www.mytelus.com/internet/alerts/detail.cfm?BulID=2377
http://www.mytelus.com/internet/alerts/detail.cfm?BulID=2374

Then, find out what's really going on by reading these:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10264601~mode=flat
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10616559~mode=flat

ugh, thanks telus.

~Scott

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