-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey Group,
Sorry, I wanted to start a new thread that doesn't highlight the negative of what has happened and hopefully build toward a positive future. As Niels said this conversation is starting to get interesting. First off I want to say that anyone's website is a constantly changing and evolving thing. CLUG's website has undergone significant changes over the years. I think that most of us can agree that the WIKI while useful at first become too cumbersome to deal with after a while and was prone to attack, hell we handed them the keys. The Nuke site offered us lots of options, neat gadgets and some security holes. Yes, popularity begets negative attention. There's the monoculture that has been mentioned that thrive on defacing people's Nuke sites because they can. Ours was no exception to this and yes, because of who we are may have been even more of a prize to these people. Well they've had their fun at our expense. At this point I am of the opinion that it is not worth patching the Nuke site. Yes, it has worked for Roy of LLUG and Johnny Stork and that is fine but the Nuke site was more than we really needed anyway. I am of the opinion that we should be keeping it simple. Simplicity does not necessaily mean dropping all PHP and going completely back to straight HTML. After having some discussion with Shawn about this and from my own personal experience we can make a system of templated pages where depending on the links clicked within the page, the page has the appropriate includes. Content management comes down to simply creating new include files and tweaking the template page to be able to use those includes. As we have a dedicated communications officer whose main job is maintenance of the CLUG website, the Executive have felt that making this job as easy as possible on him would be best. Utilizing a system described above would not be overly hard. I am not saying that the Executive would not be open to suggestions from the group. I am not discouraging anyone from volunteering to help. I have become more than a little incensed at these attacks and would like to see our content stay unmolested for a while. Things like the Book reviews are important not only to us but to O'Reilly and Prentice Hall PTR, not to mention the Reviewers who spent the time doing their reviews for us. Most of this post has been from me as an individual. I have tried to be ambiguous on purpose as nothing has been decided. The Executive has yet to meet and discuss this and plan a course of action. Presently, pains are being made (by me for now) to get the content of the old site to this temporary one. The Nuke is still in place, it hasn't been removed but we have made it inaccessible. If we decide as an Executive to patch it and reinstate it so be it. Again, mine is only one voice, I do not have the ultimate say in this. I want you all to consider that the steps that have been taken are reversible and there is nothing to say that we couldn't have a website development team working on something as we have the 'next-to-static' site up and running for you, the sponsors and the general public. This was my thought when keeping the NukeNews theme... some consistency. Thanks to people like Curtis who have again given us kudos and recognize that there is more effort going on behind the scenes than a lot of you realize. It's very comforting. Any organization that depends on voluntary help may suffer some disorganization or lengthy periods of time to have things come to fruition. We are getting better about these things. I also know that the Open-Source movement is built on people such as yourselves donating a little time to acheive great things. We will get this worked out. I would like to see the CLUG website be a thing of pride, continue to be the good communication tool that it has become and be our corner of the World Wide Web. - -- Jarrod Major GPG Fingerprint: FA4A 1EA3 A0EE A842 07BB 804C 0090 14F6 BE6E DE3D CLUG President Registered Linux User: #224211 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBQTztVACQFPa+bt49AQLzOgP+LHO983EmzkFWFIk+B8cTVrJ7bRO00qfM NluQsar5r5fIdqlTmmowKL//S31+75KHSXKzcpjivf7P3Tjd8qOk56SPuA1NXooE /ZV5nNOnLA1ECULxWGaoF0Vo+xeTHwTuJB1FE7FtVO9xsuu8ULL3Lc0Sw8JikN9o 2suSl8iDxns= =/WQi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca
