-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dave Watkins - CLUG wrote: > Gustin et al, > > Telus is doing the same thing now also. I have clients that are on Telus' > basic service as there is no requirement for them to have an "upgraded" > account. They are all low volume accounts that use Telus as an ISP only. > When their mail started to fail one day I did some digging and was told > after some time that "Things are the way the are and we, Telus, aren't > changing things". Initially they denied any changes out of the ordinary and > tried to blame both the user and us as a host. > Same experience with Shaw. At least they have rolled out to a limited area first. To test simply telnet to a non-Shaw mail server on port 25. It should be obvious if you are affected or not.
> Their bottom line to me was "If you want to use Port 25 (and the mail > servers your client's paying for) then you'll have to upgrade to a full > commercial account with us. If not, live with it". > Shaw does not even offer the option as yet. > Short term we went to Telus' mail server to process our outgoing mail but > will be switching to secure mail via another port and getting back to OUR > servers. > I had TLS setup with SMTP auth. Fortunately it was trivial to have exim listen on port 587 and 465. Having said that, I think it is a ridiculous "solution". > Again, Telus' "My way or the highway - unless you want to pay us more money" > attitude continues to reinforce my disdain for them. I would sooner Bob for > French Fries in a pot of hot oil than use Telus. > Ironically, it is the customers who are really in the drivers seat. As with politics, the majority usually do not care enough to make their voices heard. > Cheers, > > Dave Watkins > President > Calgary Linux Users Group > > W: www.clug.ca > E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > V: 403.701.5746 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEpBPcwRXgH3rKGfMRAuByAJ0RYf8UTuB8PB6kXqK04lbohH8qywCffVak b1wMzjOoGCUKKZ34Qsoxic0= =TAVR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [email protected] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying
