Thanks for your suggestions.  Here is what I have learned

Tom; Yes, I can log in as root from the console, but not from the kde login

Szemir; After I log in as root, startx starts the gnome desk top!!!  But if
I enter startx as robin lines from /var/log/Xorg.0.log (I think) are
displayed none of which begin with EE although one line did say that the
kernel was disabling IRQ #201.   Using find I couldn't find a file called
xsessions-errors.

Gustin:  I checked gdm.log and kde.log but I couldn't see any thing that
looked l like an error.  Xorg.0.log contained some warnings about missing
fonts, the mode of the clock and the fact that AIGLX: 30 driver doesn't
support some visuals but nothing beginning with EE  I also checked
/var/messages.  This is a very big file most of which looked innocent
although it did say that a message handler couldn't be found and that there
was a bad irq.

The problem with all this is that I don't really know what to look for in
all these log files so I may well have missed something important.  I wonder
of the problem is that the kde login manager is corrupted?

Any further suggestions?

Robin

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On 9/30/07, Gustin Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro
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> Richard Carter wrote:
> > When I cut the power to fix the light in the front room I didn't
> > realize that I had also cut the power to the room where my PC was
> > running Debian 4.0.  Now when I boot I get as far as the usual
> > (grub?) screen with: the
>
> This is the KDM or GDM login manager.  Grub was finished a long while ago.
>
> > debian logo and the date & time in the bottom right corner; the
> > "Session Type" and "Menu" tabs at the bottom left corner and the
> > "Welcome to redcube"  window in the middle with space for my user
> > name ("robin") and password.  Now, however, when I press enter after
> > choosing a desktop (kde or gnome) from the "Session Type" tab the
> > screen goes black for a few seconds and then returns to its previous
> > state: i.e. kde (or gnome) won't start.
>
> You may wish to check out /var/log/kdm.log or gdm.log, I am not sure
> what you are running.
>
> You will also likely want to have a look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
>
> > However, if I choose "Console Login'" from the Menu tab
> > login.succeeds and I get a message "You have new mail", which I don't
> > understand.  From this point I can navigate to various folders as
>
> There is mail for the local user, likely notifying you of a problem.  it
> is probably a good idea to install a console mail client such as pine or
> elm (there are others, these are just the two I have used).
>
> > either robin or su.as < http://su.as> I would with konsole under kde.
> > Use of ls -a suggests that my HD is ok.
> >
> > Thinking that kde might have vanished I tried, as su, "aptitude
> > install kde" which produced the usual messages concluding that
> > nothing had been installed. I guess kde is still present.  I also
> > tried, "aptitude update", which gave the usual result,  and
> > "aptitude upgrade"  which tried to upgrade the kernel  and advised me
> > to reboot asap. Then followed line after line of the form "DROPPED
> > IN=eth0 OUT=MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: (A lot more stuff follows which I
> > haven't included)".  These many lines also appear, as either robin or
> > root, if I don't enter any thing for several minutes.
> >
> > I would appreciate any help you could give me.
>
> Check the logs.  This is always a good first step.
>
> Cheers,
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