You're just flamebaiting us now. You refuse to listen to what anyone else is saying and continue to get pissed off because members of a Linux users group don't think Linux sucks. You say we're interpreting you based on our own experiences. No shit. Everyone interprets what they read based on their own experiences. However, we have given you examples of "average users" that are fine with desktop Linux. Shawn's kid uses it, my father uses it, my brother uses it. Let's take a look at how easy it is to install a system like Ubuntu:
1. Insert disk 2. Click "Next" 6 times 3. Reboot 4. It prompts you to install hardware drivers 5. It prompts you to install video/audio codecs A monkey could do this. The fact that you fail to recognize how easy it's become shows a lack on knowledge on the subject. Put Slackware away and try a desktop oriented distro. Also, don't think we're not listening to you. When something goes wrong, it is hard for the average user to troubleshoot. I understand this. However, the average user has problems with Windows as well. This is why I'm constantly trying to troubleshoot my families Vista computers over the phone. I have only every used Vista once or twice, but I'm often successful because I understand how computers work and I'm good at googling for solutions. No different with Linux. The average users does not need to know how to compile software or how to install a driver. For the most part, modern distributions detect hardware and install drivers quite well. It's not perfect, but it's come a long way in the last decade and it's likely to only get better in the future. Plus, there are a lot of things that Linux users do not have to worry about. My Dad loves the fact that when I install a new distro. on his Eee PC, just about everything he needs is there. Not just notepad, paint, and some demo versions of other pieces of software. And while it can be confusing for a WIndows user when they find a tarball on a website, it's really easy to go into Add Remove Software and install one of the thousands of pieces of software that is available in the Ubuntu/Debian repos. Can you do this on Windows? You seem to think we're not listening to you. Are you listening to us, or are you just trolling for a flame war? Jesse On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Juan Alberto Cirez <[email protected]>wrote: > For the last time: TO THE AVERAGE USER WINDOWS IS EASIER TO USE. > GNU/Linux on the server space is the $**t; but as a Desktop it > blows...and sucks > > The average user does not know, or care to know how to compile programs > from source; or know what in hell's name a device driver is. An average > user is someone that unlike most of the reader of this list, does not > have a computer (or software development) background so please stop > interpreting my comments based on your own level of computer > proficiency. I mistakenly assumed that your experience with GNU/Linux > would have given you an insight into the challenges people without such > experience encounter. Again, I was wrong. > > For the past three years or so we have been trying to introduce > GNU/Linux to the local government, schools districts and small to > mid-sized business. So far that endeavor has been less than a > spectacular success simply because the learning curve is to steep. This > has been the case in every age group, category and proficiency level. > This of course is not hard to see: Microsoft has spent billions on R&D, > so naturally its final product would have addressed (or at least > attempted to address) in some ways the inherent difficulties in HMI and > well as hardware integration. I think we (the GNU/Linux) community have > spent so much time and effort hating Microsoft that we fail to > recognize (and worse, emulate) some of their successful approaches. > > The fact that no one has even raised the possibilities these same issues > exists in GNU/Linux is simply astounding when the proof is so glaringly > apparent: Take a trip to your local Office Depot and grab some > peripherals at random (printer, network cards, etc.) see how many of > these devices will work right out of the box in both Windows and > GNU/Linux; then see how easy and/or intuitive would be to "get > everything to work" in both OS. The fact that no one recognizes this > tells me of the disconnect between the open source developing community > and the average user. > > -- > > =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= > Juan Alberto Cirez > CFAA/CFAT, AFSA/CFAT-CFET,CIPS/ISP, ASTTBC/CFET, CHI(e) > Sr. Field Service Technician/Project Manager > J. A. Cirez Integrated Technologies, Inc > Fire Protection | IT Services | Security | Home Inspections | Consulting > Tel. : (780)972-4739 > Fax : (780)747-6078 > Email: [email protected] > Web : http://www.jacintech.com > > =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= > > > > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying >
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