Nucleus is at 209-0000 On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:06:52PM -0700, [email protected] wrote: > > Nucleus tells me they are going the opposite way. Just dump shaw / telus > and call up Nucleus and be done with them. The service is better as well. > > Once the wires are in it does not caost significantly more to use them. Its > not like water which needs to be treated before and after its used. > > A peave of mine is that people pay for internet to get internet services > which servers provide. Yet the servers people want services from arn't owned > by Shaw and Telus. Shaw and Telus won't pay the people who run the servers. > Funny eh? > > Well - to be honest shaw and Telus pay for access to American servers. They > just figure they should not have to pay for access to Canadian servers. > > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:41:05PM -0700, Gustin Johnson wrote: > > I am split about this. On one hand I have for a while been thinking > > that the Internet should be metered, like water or electricity. It > > should also be as smart (ie. nothing but a dumb pipe). If I want to > > take a 2 hour shower, then I can do so as long as I am willing to pay > > for it. > > > > The big problem is that the price needs to be reasonable, which $2/gig > > is not. I have zero faith in the market to set reasonable price. > > > > I am not sure when Shaw will be charging, but they have posted their > > current "guidelines" in the acceptable use policy (aka the AUP). You > > can find this at: > > http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/AboutShaw/TermsofUse/AcceptableUsePolicyInternet.htm > > > > Of interest: > > You must ensure that your activity while using the Services does not > > improperly restrict, inhibit or degrade any other customer's use of > > the Services, nor represent (in the sole judgment of Shaw) an > > unusually large burden on the network itself, such as, but not limited > > to, peer to peer file sharing programs, serving streaming video or > > audio, mail, http, ftp, irc, dhcp servers, and multi-user interactive > > forums. The guidelines for Bandwidth Usage/month for each service > > package are the following: Shaw High-Speed Lite - 15 GigaByte; Shaw > > High-Speed - 60 GigaByte; Shaw High-Speed Extreme - 100 GigaByte; Shaw > > High-Speed Warp - 175 GigaByte; Shaw High-Speed Nitro - 350 GigaByte; > > Point of Sale Connect - 10 GigaByte; Hih-Speed - 70 GigaByte; > > High-Speed (with Extreme) - 110 GigaByte; SOHO - 90 GigaByte; SOHO > > (with Extreme) - 130; Business - 175 GigaByte; Business (with Extreme) > > - 225 GigaByte (all bandwidth is based on combined download and > > upload). > > > > While the limits are not terrible, they are not great either. I would > > be happier with this scheme if I could bank the bandwidth I don't use, > > but that is less likely than the moon disappearing. > > > > If Shaw was not competing with Netflix or YouTube I would be less > > worried, but this seems like their response to the success of the > > Internet based services that we have asked for repeatedly for years. > > Instead of competing they are putting up pay walls. > > > > Ultimately what I would like to see is that ISPs are barred from the > > content business. They should be in the business of selling Internet > > access and nothing else. > > > > Now that I have pulled the pin on the grenade, let the flame war begin > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Dafydd Crosby <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I've been in and out of the loop on the matter of metered Internet > > > billing. > > > Does anyone know when Shaw's planning on starting this on residential > > > lines? > > > > > > More info: > > > http://arstechnica.com/telecom/news/2011/01/canada-wages-youtube-war-against-metered-internet-billing.ars > > > > > > -Dafydd > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > clug-talk mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > > > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > > > **Please remove these lines when replying > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > clug-talk mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > > **Please remove these lines when replying > > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying
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