It looks like UBB is going to be struck down by the cabinet :-) http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/932571--ottawa-threatens-to-reverse-crtc-decision-on-internet-billing
-Dafydd On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Shawn <[email protected]> wrote: > http://www.ndp.ca/ubb-twitter-rally > > > On 11-02-01 09:54 PM, [email protected] wrote: > >> >> Really its just as cheap here. The overhead cable is about the same per >> meter: Fibre/copper: Take your pick. The interfaces are cheap and one >> time charges. >> >> We should pay the lineman for the maintenence of the lines and do the rest >> ourselves... possible a coop organisation like Federated COOP. Or put the >> CO operations up for tender. >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 09:50:57PM -0500, Jesse Kline wrote: >> >>> I'd love to see a comparative analysis of the Canadian and Japanese >>> markets. >>> Is it cheaper in Japan because of the high density, large population, and >>> small area? Is it more competition? Government subsidies? >>> >>> Jesse >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Robert Toole<[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I'm against this.. it's all about competition (or the lack of it) It >>>> does >>>> seem awful suspicious that just days after Netflix announced service to >>>> Canada, The big four announced reductions in Usage caps. >>>> >>>> Canada is an Internet Ghetto. In Japan, you can get synchronous 100 Mbps >>>> fiber to your house for 50 bucks a month. At my office we are paying >>>> $1,500 >>>> for the same. >>>> >>>> I could go on, but others have said enough to convince me, have a look >>>> at >>>> these links: >>>> >>>> Usage based billing - http://tinyurl.com/UBBExplained >>>> >>>> More about CRTC - http://tinyurl.com/WakeUpCanada >>>> >>>> Petition to stop UBB - http://openmedia.ca/meter >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/fbtqa/well_reddit_my_weekend_just_turned_to_shit_im/c1erwdp >>>> >>>> cheers. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11-01-28 03:23 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>> >>>> A question I have for you is why you need that kind of bandwidth and >>>>> how >>>>> can it be delivered? Can it be delivered via WiFi? Can it be >>>>> broadcast? >>>>> >>>>> Most of the population is happy with DSL speeds and I'm one of them. >>>>> About all I would like to see is IPTV but this is a poor use of >>>>> bandwidth >>>>> but then once the wires are in we should pay for the MAINTENENCE of the >>>>> wires and not the USE of the wires. Internet cables are not like water >>>>> pipes! >>>>> >>>>> As I see it the services a company like Telus should provide is hanging >>>>> the wires and fixing them. But then I happen to have an account at >>>>> Anixiter >>>>> and they do happen to sell both copper communications cables as well as >>>>> fiber communications cables. At this time fiber is so cheap there is >>>>> no >>>>> reason WHAT SO EVER to use copper! Bandwidth on fiber is basically >>>>> unlimited! >>>>> >>>>> its not that the technology so not exist or that it is not >>>>> affordable... >>>>> the problem is we arn't allowed to use it and we are the ones who paid >>>>> for >>>>> it in the first place! So Telus just sits there and gouges where they >>>>> can >>>>> while they can! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 02:12:39PM -0700, Gustin Johnson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:22 PM,<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> <snip> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes - nucleus resells Telus lines. So does Rogers. We Albertans put >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> those plines and we paid for them all via AGT. Telus inherited them >>>>>>> in a >>>>>>> sweetheart deal. The part of Telus that handles the lines IMHO is >>>>>>> pretty >>>>>>> good ... in many cases far better than ontehr companies. But the >>>>>>> other >>>>>>> parts stink. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> I have had pretty good experience with this part of telus in the past. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't know about Nucleus web hosting. I just have no complaints >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> no - I do not work for them and at this time I am not one of their >>>>>>> representatives. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> That aspect of Nucleus is pretty bad. I do not personally use any ISP >>>>>> hosted services (DNS, Web,Mail, etc...) as this allows me to switch >>>>>> relatively pain free from one ISP to another. Of course the wife is >>>>>> tied to Shaw so they get me in the end :) >>>>>> >>>>>> The real problem I have is that there is no competition. Neither >>>>>> Telus nor Nucleus (or Tech Savvy for that matter) can come close to >>>>>> the performance of the cable modem that I have. I would like to at >>>>>> least try another ISP (heck, I would like to have two or more pipes >>>>>> servicing my house) but none of the DSL or wireless providers here can >>>>>> touch the 15 mbit *real world* performance. 15 mbit is not even the >>>>>> top end of what Shaw can provide. We need to find a way for other >>>>>> ISPs to provide that kind of bandwidth. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> clug-talk mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >>>>>> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >>>>>> **Please remove these lines when replying >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> clug-talk mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >>>>> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >>>>> **Please remove these lines when replying >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Robert Toole >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> clug-talk mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >>>> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >>>> **Please remove these lines when replying >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jesse Kline, M.J. >>> Freelance Journalist >>> http://jesse.kline.ca/ >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >>> clug-talk mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >>> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >>> **Please remove these lines when replying >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> clug-talk mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >> **Please remove these lines when replying >> > > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying >
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