I haven't had a serious look at Nucleus for ISP services in years. But
the last time I did look, they were reselling Telus connections. (i.e.
Telus provided their back-end).
As for Nucleus web hosting. Nope, very recent experiences with it for a
customer and I will not be recommending it anytime soon.
Owning a server is one thing. Getting the data from that server to your
internet customers is something else. Slightly different approaches to
the same data. In one case you have storing data (server), in the other
you have transmitting data (ISPs).
On 11-01-28 12:06 PM, [email protected] wrote:
Nucleus tells me they are going the opposite way. Just dump shaw / telus and
call up Nucleus and be done with them. The service is better as well.
Once the wires are in it does not caost significantly more to use them. Its
not like water which needs to be treated before and after its used.
A peave of mine is that people pay for internet to get internet services which
servers provide. Yet the servers people want services from arn't owned by Shaw
and Telus. Shaw and Telus won't pay the people who run the servers. Funny eh?
Well - to be honest shaw and Telus pay for access to American servers. They
just figure they should not have to pay for access to Canadian servers.
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:41:05PM -0700, Gustin Johnson wrote:
I am split about this. On one hand I have for a while been thinking
that the Internet should be metered, like water or electricity. It
should also be as smart (ie. nothing but a dumb pipe). If I want to
take a 2 hour shower, then I can do so as long as I am willing to pay
for it.
The big problem is that the price needs to be reasonable, which $2/gig
is not. I have zero faith in the market to set reasonable price.
I am not sure when Shaw will be charging, but they have posted their
current "guidelines" in the acceptable use policy (aka the AUP). You
can find this at:
http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/AboutShaw/TermsofUse/AcceptableUsePolicyInternet.htm
Of interest:
You must ensure that your activity while using the Services does not
improperly restrict, inhibit or degrade any other customer's use of
the Services, nor represent (in the sole judgment of Shaw) an
unusually large burden on the network itself, such as, but not limited
to, peer to peer file sharing programs, serving streaming video or
audio, mail, http, ftp, irc, dhcp servers, and multi-user interactive
forums. The guidelines for Bandwidth Usage/month for each service
package are the following: Shaw High-Speed Lite - 15 GigaByte; Shaw
High-Speed - 60 GigaByte; Shaw High-Speed Extreme - 100 GigaByte; Shaw
High-Speed Warp - 175 GigaByte; Shaw High-Speed Nitro - 350 GigaByte;
Point of Sale Connect - 10 GigaByte; Hih-Speed - 70 GigaByte;
High-Speed (with Extreme) - 110 GigaByte; SOHO - 90 GigaByte; SOHO
(with Extreme) - 130; Business - 175 GigaByte; Business (with Extreme)
- 225 GigaByte (all bandwidth is based on combined download and
upload).
While the limits are not terrible, they are not great either. I would
be happier with this scheme if I could bank the bandwidth I don't use,
but that is less likely than the moon disappearing.
If Shaw was not competing with Netflix or YouTube I would be less
worried, but this seems like their response to the success of the
Internet based services that we have asked for repeatedly for years.
Instead of competing they are putting up pay walls.
Ultimately what I would like to see is that ISPs are barred from the
content business. They should be in the business of selling Internet
access and nothing else.
Now that I have pulled the pin on the grenade, let the flame war begin
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Dafydd Crosby<[email protected]> wrote:
I've been in and out of the loop on the matter of metered Internet billing.
Does anyone know when Shaw's planning on starting this on residential lines?
More info:
http://arstechnica.com/telecom/news/2011/01/canada-wages-youtube-war-against-metered-internet-billing.ars
-Dafydd
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