Really its just as cheap here. The overhead cable is about the same per meter: Fibre/copper: Take your pick. The interfaces are cheap and one time charges.
We should pay the lineman for the maintenence of the lines and do the rest ourselves... possible a coop organisation like Federated COOP. Or put the CO operations up for tender. On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 09:50:57PM -0500, Jesse Kline wrote: > I'd love to see a comparative analysis of the Canadian and Japanese markets. > Is it cheaper in Japan because of the high density, large population, and > small area? Is it more competition? Government subsidies? > > Jesse > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Robert Toole <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I'm against this.. it's all about competition (or the lack of it) It does > > seem awful suspicious that just days after Netflix announced service to > > Canada, The big four announced reductions in Usage caps. > > > > Canada is an Internet Ghetto. In Japan, you can get synchronous 100 Mbps > > fiber to your house for 50 bucks a month. At my office we are paying $1,500 > > for the same. > > > > I could go on, but others have said enough to convince me, have a look at > > these links: > > > > Usage based billing - http://tinyurl.com/UBBExplained > > > > More about CRTC - http://tinyurl.com/WakeUpCanada > > > > Petition to stop UBB - http://openmedia.ca/meter > > > > > > http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/fbtqa/well_reddit_my_weekend_just_turned_to_shit_im/c1erwdp > > > > cheers. > > > > > > On 11-01-28 03:23 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > > >> A question I have for you is why you need that kind of bandwidth and how > >> can it be delivered? Can it be delivered via WiFi? Can it be broadcast? > >> > >> Most of the population is happy with DSL speeds and I'm one of them. > >> About all I would like to see is IPTV but this is a poor use of bandwidth > >> but then once the wires are in we should pay for the MAINTENENCE of the > >> wires and not the USE of the wires. Internet cables are not like water > >> pipes! > >> > >> As I see it the services a company like Telus should provide is hanging > >> the wires and fixing them. But then I happen to have an account at > >> Anixiter > >> and they do happen to sell both copper communications cables as well as > >> fiber communications cables. At this time fiber is so cheap there is no > >> reason WHAT SO EVER to use copper! Bandwidth on fiber is basically > >> unlimited! > >> > >> its not that the technology so not exist or that it is not affordable... > >> the problem is we arn't allowed to use it and we are the ones who paid for > >> it in the first place! So Telus just sits there and gouges where they can > >> while they can! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 02:12:39PM -0700, Gustin Johnson wrote: > >> > >>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:22 PM,<[email protected]> wrote: > >>> <snip> > >>> > >>>> Yes - nucleus resells Telus lines. So does Rogers. We Albertans put in > >>>> those plines and we paid for them all via AGT. Telus inherited them in a > >>>> sweetheart deal. The part of Telus that handles the lines IMHO is pretty > >>>> good ... in many cases far better than ontehr companies. But the other > >>>> parts stink. > >>>> > >>> > >>> I have had pretty good experience with this part of telus in the past. > >>> > >>>> > >>>> I don't know about Nucleus web hosting. I just have no complaints and > >>>> no - I do not work for them and at this time I am not one of their > >>>> representatives. > >>>> > >>> > >>> That aspect of Nucleus is pretty bad. I do not personally use any ISP > >>> hosted services (DNS, Web,Mail, etc...) as this allows me to switch > >>> relatively pain free from one ISP to another. Of course the wife is > >>> tied to Shaw so they get me in the end :) > >>> > >>> The real problem I have is that there is no competition. Neither > >>> Telus nor Nucleus (or Tech Savvy for that matter) can come close to > >>> the performance of the cable modem that I have. I would like to at > >>> least try another ISP (heck, I would like to have two or more pipes > >>> servicing my house) but none of the DSL or wireless providers here can > >>> touch the 15 mbit *real world* performance. 15 mbit is not even the > >>> top end of what Shaw can provide. We need to find a way for other > >>> ISPs to provide that kind of bandwidth. > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> clug-talk mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > >>> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > >>> **Please remove these lines when replying > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> clug-talk mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > >> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > >> **Please remove these lines when replying > >> > > > > -- > > Robert Toole > > [email protected] > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > clug-talk mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > > **Please remove these lines when replying > > > > > > -- > Jesse Kline, M.J. > Freelance Journalist > http://jesse.kline.ca/ > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [email protected] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying
