Hi Terr:

You've raised two issues I'll comment on. Copyright applies to making
something like a tape of a TV show. Generally, one can make one photocopy of
something for one's personal use or research. I think the new copyright law
was finally introduced; it's been a long time in the making. I don't know
what the TV people think about VCRs.

The inability to watch a pre-made DVD (is that what you meant?) on Linux is
related to mechanical rights. It could be that the manufacturer(s) are 1.
unaware of the Linux market; 2. think it is too small for a cost/benefit; 3.
think it might be too complicated to produce and/or market a different
format. So the answer would be talking with manufacturers about the issue
(and perhaps helping them develop the format).

Ellen

On 23 February 2011 23:46, <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Precisely.  WHatever DRM might be in place now... there is a good chance it
> will be broken in the very near future.
>
>
>
> Another related issue is CBC programming and this of course spills into
> CTV, Global, etc.
>
> They have tried to erect "walls" which means if you take a trip and want to
> see something while out of the country... forget it.  If you want to copy it
> to your hard drive while say visiting an internet cafe forget it.  This
> means if you are camped by the lake forget it.
>
>
> There are open formats like Vorbis and I think we need to be demanding that
> the programming they put on line is available in vorbis.
>
>
> Here is another issue...  what of the Calgary Public Library?  I can borrow
> from 1000's of books and DVD's.  However even though they "say" they have an
> online service and even though as the tax payer I have paid for this... its
> not available to me.  Note that while the partron pays I think $25 bux for a
> library membership... the taxpayer forks over at least 5x this.
>
> Of course we all know the taxpayer pays a hefty chunk for CBC.
>
>
> Well - we've paid for it... so why  can't we have open access to it?
>
>
> In the past if we want to tape a TV program so we can show it to a friend
> or watch it at another time we had the right to so this.  As we go digital
> we're losing our rights
>
> Do we have any lawyers who can answer this?  Does copyright to say a DVD
> allow whoever owns the copyright to deny me the right to watch the DVD on my
> linux machine?  Does CBC have the right to force me to fork over cash to
> microsoft? apple?  I already have all the copies of windows for instance
> that I want.  But NT4.0 is out of date and I don't think it can access their
> programming anyways.
>
>
> To me this is like CBC telling me I have to buy an RCA television and if I
> want to use a Toshiba then I should screw off.
>
> What about City Hall?  Shouldn't I have the right to access their material
> on the Calgary web site in Vorbis?
>
> Maybe we need to look into some legal challenges.  This might be done via
> small claims and the key is that if we can get a judgment then the city will
> have no excuses.  But of course I'm not a lawyer so I don't know.  Opinions?
>
>
>
>
> > I this particular situation we should be demanding that the 'flow' is
> > actually an open format.
> >
> > Want happens when their propriatory DRM server is taken off line in a few
> > years time... you lose access to the media you purchased?
> >
> > Simon
>
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