On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 12:28 +0200, Koen Kooi wrote: > On 29-07-09 11:10, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 10:12 +0200, Koen Kooi wrote: > > > >>> Today I want to try clutter with GLES but failed to compiled for some > >>> missing variables such as /model_view, projection_stack…/ > >> > >> Looks a lot like this bug that's still open: > >> http://bugzilla.openedhand.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1698 > >> > >> I really wish that clutter people who break such stuff would clean up > >> after themselves.... > > > > and I'd really wish for GL|ES users to submit patches since we explained > > multiple times that we cannot currently test GL|ES backends. > > > > let me re-state this as clearly as I can: compiling *is* *not* *the* > > *problem*: there have been changes in how Clutter and COGL work, and GL| > > ES backends have *not* been ported to them because we cannot *test* it. > > And people aren't going to test it since it doesn't compile. Also, is > downloading and installing the powervr simulator or an opensource > gl->gles bridge that hard?
the PowerVR simulator has its own idiosyncrasies that might make stuff compile, but break subtly; this is acquired knowledge from the 0.8 development cycle. the only way of actually verifying that the GL|ES backends work with real implementations is to have real implementations run the code. which we don't have. > The cynical side of me suggests that intel is blocking GLES work so > clutter only works on x86, but that's just me being cynical. that would be just you being cynical and wrong. we helped, and still help everyone that wishes to use Clutter on GL|ES hardware. if we wanted to mess people up we could have just yanked out the whole GL|ES backends from the start. ciao, Emmanuele. -- Emmanuele Bassi, Senior Engineer | emmanuele.ba...@intel.com Intel Open Source Technology Center | http://oss.intel.com -- To unsubscribe send a mail to clutter+unsubscr...@o-hand.com
