RE: Time studies

[Ann Schoeny]

Has your administrator ever attempted to do any of this? It is going to be even more important to be accurate etc with the new DAVe reviews. You can't even go thru a chart in 20 minutes, it takes me 30 min on average to interview. And I usually interview a resident more than once during the assessment period. CRAZY. Good luck. Maybe you need to save all these responses and show then to the muckity-mucks. -----Original Message----- From: Connie L. Frank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 10:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Time studies Ridiculous. How in the world does that even demonstrate the changes and adjustments needed as things improve and decline. Defeats the entire idea of the Nursing Process….   -----Original Message----- From: Deb Morell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 7:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Time studies   They think all MDS should only take 20 min. They also have demanded we do a careplan upon admission(same day as admit) one on the 5 day, a new one on the 14 day and a new one with each quarterly, annual and sign change. Not just revise old c/p but print out a new one. Deb   -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry Salinas Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 7:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Time studies   20 min?  For a comprehensive or full MDS?  Or a Quarterly?  Before IL started requiring full MDS for quarterlies, I could do an uncomplicated quarterly RUGS III MDS in 20 min.    A full MDS takes me anywhere from an hour (for an uncomplicated quarterly or annual) to three hours (for admissions or complicated ones.)   Sherry Deb Morell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We have just been told from our administration that we are taking too much time doing the MDS, they say it should only take 20 minutes to do a MDS. Can anyone help me find the time studies that have been done. It sure would help to show the powers that be it takes much longer. They have been told by consultants that AANAC is the ultimate in MDS info, so hopefully they will believe it if the info comes from here, thanks. Deb Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! PRIVACY NOTICE -4/2/2004- The information contained in this message is privileged and confidential information intended for the use of [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you are neither the intended recipient nor the employee or agent responsible for delivering this information to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or taking of any action in reliance on the content of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, would you be so kind as to notify us immediately by the telephone number provided below and immediately destroy or delete the information. Thank you. Telephone Number: 218-749-9408