Thank you Marcie for reminding me to respond.  I also spoke with Dr. Druker 
both in person and through e-mails.  He is very helpful to all of us if we 
contact him.  He assured me of just what Marcie said, that it is not dangerous 
to have eye bleeds.  Of course they are caused by gleevec no matter what the 
doctors say.  And yes they take about 5 or 6 days to disappear.  I am still a 
walking miracle with being off gleevec for six years and still in cellular 
remission.  I am doing this against Dr's orders because I had two brain bleeds 
and two years after being off gleevec had a full-blown stroke at age 58.  I do 
know my family's medical history has a tendency for this hematoma in the brain. 
 It is what caused my father's death.  I am enjoying every day as a gift.  


Happy Resurrection Day to all!  and 18's,


Susan




-----Original Message-----
From: Marcie Goodman <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Mar 30, 2013 5:02 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] eye bleeds


Hi Jeanie:


I totally agree that the eye doctors and even the best hematologists and 
oncologists don't get the eye bleeds. I just had my 4 year anniversary of 
diagnosis and starting gleevec. I've had numerous eye bleeds, had them checked 
out with the best opthamologist at Johns Hopkins here in Baltimore. They tell 
me it is not the gleevec. Of course, it is. I emailed Dr. Druker last year 
because I was concerned about the bleeds and also the possibility of a brain 
bleed, as I think Susan on this site has unfortunately experienced. Dr. Druker 
told me that eye bleeds are a side effect some patients experience but they are 
not dangerous. I was greatly relieved to hear that and touched that he 
responded to me, a total stranger, immediately. 


When I have a bleed, almost always in my left eye, I use warm compresses and if 
it is a particularly bad hemorrhage, I use an eye patch if I am at work or 
going out. The pirate look - better than people feeling squeamish because your 
eye looks disgusting. Generally these clear up quickly although it can take up 
to 5 or 6 days for all traces to disappear. 


I've had a couple of eye bleeds that hurt and one or two where around my eye on 
the outside it bruised, a black eye. It was explained to me that because the 
vessels burst inside there was a bruise on the outside, much as you would have 
if you bang your hand or leg or anything and bruise. 


Hope this is helpful. Hang in there and feel better. God bless and best wishes 
for a lovely holiday. 


Marcie

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On Mar 30, 2013, at 4:01 PM, [email protected] wrote:



Hello everyone, My eye is still red and hurts a little.  I have been applying 
cold compresses.  The problem is an eye doctor wouldn't understand the meds I 
am taking and what they do, however I will go soon if it doesn't clear up.
Anyone with advice on Eye bleeds
Jeanie<3
 

In a message dated 3/24/2013 7:29:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:
  
Symptoms brain bleed
  
Nausea headache blurred vision bad balance
  
Numb tingling and others
  
Make sure to get your blood checked often 
  
As your counts can drop fast
  
Jeanie

Sent from my iPhone
  

On Mar 23, 2013, at 11:27 PM, [email protected]   wrote:


  
    
    
      
      
        
Penny, if something was making me wonder if I was           having a brain 
bleed I would be on my way to the ER.           
Patrick

--- On Sat, 3/23/13, Penny <[email protected]>           wrote:
          

From:             Penny <[email protected]>
Subject:             Re: [CMLHope] Tasigna
To: [email protected]
Date:             Saturday, March 23, 2013, 9:53 PM

            
            
Hi,
            
 
            
How do you know if you have had a brain bleed.  I just             started on 
Sprycel 2 weeks ago...  Penny
            

On Tuesday, November 1, 2011 1:22:54 PM UTC-6, [email protected] wrote:
            

This is great news about Tasigna....!  I spoke               yesterday to a 
doctor in charge of a clinical trial.  He               advised me with my 
history of bleeding in the brain to NEVER take               sprycel, said it 
is well known that it causes bleeding.  All               my other doctors have 
been wanting me to go on it!  He               advised tasigna only, as it is 
the only one that does not have the               slight side effect for those 
who are prone to have bleeding.                Very very important news for me, 
as I've not been on               anything for four and a half years.  Gleevec 
caused bleeding.                I am going soon for another bcr/abl test, it's 
been a year.                I am so thankful I'm still in cellular remission.  
This               doctor yesterday said don't wait until you come out of 
remission               because you could go into blast phase.  Pray that 
things come               together for me financially to do this.  By the way, 
what               side effects come with tasigna???               


              
18's,
              

              
Susan F. Zimmerman
              



              
-----Original               Message-----
From: Suzan Collins <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Oct 31,               2011 9:39 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Tasigna

              
              
              
Hi I don't post much. I was dxed in               June 2004. I had never 
reached all zeros before and it always               stayed around .004.  I  
had so much trouble with               severe side effects from gleevec and 
sprycel and               sprycel also gave me skin ulcers.  So he put me       
        on tasigna .  I have been on               tasigna for nearly 2 years 
and from the               beginning I continued to have trouble with bad side  
             effects two months later. So my doctor               decided to 
put me on 200               mgs once every other day. The side effects declined 
              immensely and my last fish test was               all zeros so 
even though it is only 200               mgs every other day tasigna has        
       kept my CML under control. So good luck.  I               hope that you 
can get they same results that I have.
              
Suzan
              


              
              
              
From: kellyelise <[email protected]>
To: CMLHope <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, October 31,               2011 8:24 PM
Subject: [CMLHope]               Tasigna

Marty...tweet, tweet? Ha ha ha!! You are so               funny!!

Anyway....My PA from MDAnderson in compliance with               Dr. Cortes have
allowed me to take Tasigna @ 200mg daily. It is               less that the
recommended dose but they are hoping to lessen               side effects but 
at the
same time put the CML back under               control. I "think" she said my 
PCR
was 0.333% (does that make               sense?). I have never come out of 
remission
in 4 years until               now (boo!). She also said I am showing no 
evidence of
the               Philadelphia chromosome. I have no idea what this all means   
            since
I cannot retain anything, but, I am hoping it is good               news.

Any advice, knowledge, etc., would be greatly               appreciated. I am
currently in the market for a heme/onc and               will be looking 50 
miles to
the West (Cleveland, OH) or 50               miles to the East (Erie, PA). I 
asked
my NP at CCF for some               guidance and hopefully she can provide some.

18s to               everyone!
Kelly

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