I was really bothered by cramping for some years (I have been on Gleevec for 12 
years now.). I find that the best and fastest relief for cramping in the feet 
is standing barefoot on a COLD surface. As my bedroom is carpeted, I used to 
keep a large plastic covered book beside the bed to step on when the cramps 
attacked. It was, at least, cool to my feet.
Any movement repeated a few times with effort will cramp me....peeling 
potatoes, polishing silver, cutting with scissors. I have even gotten a cramp 
in my lips while putting on lipstick. The cramp of the throat muscles while 
yawning is the MOST uncomfortable of all. I hate getting a foot cramp while I 
am driving at high speed on a freeway. I tried potassium supplements, and 
drinking orange juice when a cramp struck.
After so many years I still get them but they are fewer and farther between. 

I always look around and see unfortunates whose lives are worse than mine, and 
I am grateful for the ability to live a pretty normal life despite CML.

 
What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what 
lies within us....
Angie




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From: ICANDOALLTTC <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 2:28 pm
Subject: [CMLHope] Jim and Millie and all


Thanks Jim for all your support.  You there Millie? Just wondering how you are?
Jeanie<3
 
In a message dated 4/30/2013 5:51:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:
Hi Peg, I also have the cramping, I'm on Gleevec since it was approved in the 
USA. I was dxed 4/12,1997. I've experienced many of the known side effects. Eye 
bleeds, cramping in the legs(upper and lower), feet insteps, forearm, hands, I 
inquired abut muscle relaxers and Onc. gave me some and it didn't help. The 
legs and hands respond to hot water, the feet don't! My Pcr test is negative 
that's a plus that we are so happy for. I'm 68 and the side effects aren't bad 
enough for me to want to venture into the unknown with a different med. that 
may not even work for me or the side effects are worse than what I currently 
have.
> 
>18s to all my fellow warriors we must never give up research is making head 
>way as never before who knows what they ill come up with next. some day the 
>big "C' will stand for CURE. I pray every day for that AMEN. God Bless us all. 
>Jim Rodeghier 
>
>--- On Mon, 4/29/13, peg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>From: peg <[email protected]>
>>Subject: [CMLHope] TKI Spasticity
>>To: [email protected]
>>Date: Monday, April 29, 2013, 10:57 AM
>>
>>
>>Hi all, 
>>
>>
>>Sorry it takes me a while to catch up these days.  Just read Beth's post on 
>>spasticity and wanted to share.  There are many folks having muscle related 
>>problems with all of the CML drugs.  The spectrum ranges from the seriousness 
>>of myopathy to simple muscles spasms, with everything in between.  Gleevec 
>>gave me myopathy.  Because I was not a good candidate for Tasigna we moved 
>>directly to Sprycel back in 2010...before it was front line approved.  For me 
>>Sprycel causes such severe muscle contractions that I have developed 
>>contractures in several places in my body. At first we just thought it was my 
>>arthritis causing limited range of motion, but then several months ago 
>>finally realized what had happened.  I am in physical therapy now to improve 
>>my range of motion.  We have also had to radically adjust the Sprycel 
>>dosing...not just for the contractures, but also the crippling fatigue, mind 
>>numbing brain fog, bone pain and Sprycel induced
 depression.  The only time I feel really good now is on Sprycel "holidays".  
>>
>>
>>After many dose reductions here's where I am at...in 2011 we started dropping 
>>the daily dose....first 70mg then 50mg.  We also tried 50mg every other day, 
>>then 20mg daily.  All of these changes still held me at PCRU.  But even at 
>>20mg daily it was difficult to have a normal life.  There was also a concern 
>>from the specialist I see who helped develop Spycel.  He believes that from 
>>what he is seeing, the way Sprycel affects the CML is more related to the 
>>size of each dose, rather than the frequency, so he had a concern that 20mg a 
>>day would not hold the PCRU. Although I have heard of cases where it is.  We 
>>also noted that for me a "washout" of a few days off Sprycel helped me 
>>recover from the side effects. Without that washout, the affects would load 
>>up.  So this was when we started experimenting  last Oct with twice weekly 
>>dosing.  Unfortunately 70mg still proved to high a single dose for me, so we 
>>did a brief five months at 50mg every third
 day. However, the side effects from each dose are still so severe, it is like 
sticking my finger in a light socket, everything in my body clenches.  This 
starts two hours after each dose and lasts for almost 24 hours.  Every third 
day dosing was just craziness, since I couldn't plan around that well...and 
found myself dragging myself painfully through life every third day...hating 
every minute of it.  We finally realized that the only way I could have any 
quality of life was to drop back to a twice a week dose and take those days out 
of my schedule...just plan on being down for the count on those two same days 
each week. 
>>
>>
>>So we are now at 50mg two days a week.  I take a muscle relaxer with each 
>>dose, and again at 12 hours if I need it.  This really helps with the muscle 
>>spasms.  I lose two days out of my week, but the quality of the other five is 
>>much better now.  We are monitoring my PCR monthly to see if the PCRU still 
>>holds.  
>>
>>
>>I can't recommend experimenting for everyone...it carries a risk of becoming 
>>resistant.  However, the quality of my life had become so bad that the cost 
>>of saving my life was no longer worth it. Life in the absence of any quality 
>>is simply not a life.  
>>
>>
>>For those of you who's reactions to TKI are not as dramatic as mine, adding a 
>>muscle relaxer to each dose, even daily, might bring the muscle spasm relief 
>>you need.  My drug of choice is Robaxin...but to each man his own!
>>
>>
>>Warmest regards to everyone! 
>>
>>
>>Peg 
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