Hi Angie,

Many years ago after my bone marrow transplant I would get the most painful
cramps in almost every part of my body but it was my legs that was the
worst of all.

This went on for a long time until one of my friends told me to start
taking Magnesium. I did and no more cramps. Maybe you might want to try it
as well and see what happens. I hope that it also works for you.

18's

Marty


On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:12 AM, ANGELYN ESDERS <[email protected]> wrote:

> I was really bothered by cramping for some years (I have been on Gleevec
> for 12 years now.). I find that the best and fastest relief for cramping in
> the feet is standing barefoot on a COLD surface. As my bedroom is carpeted,
> I used to keep a large plastic covered book beside the bed to step on when
> the cramps attacked. It was, at least, cool to my feet.
> Any movement repeated a few times with effort will cramp me....peeling
> potatoes, polishing silver, cutting with scissors. I have even gotten a
> cramp in my lips while putting on lipstick. The cramp of the throat muscles
> while yawning is the MOST uncomfortable of all. I hate getting a foot cramp
> while I am driving at high speed on a freeway. I tried potassium
> supplements, and drinking orange juice when a cramp struck.
> After so many years I still get them but they are fewer and farther
> between.
> I always look around and see unfortunates whose lives are worse than mine,
> and I am grateful for the ability to live a pretty normal life despite CML.
>
> What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to
> what lies within us....
> Angie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ICANDOALLTTC <[email protected]>
> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 2:28 pm
> Subject: [CMLHope] Jim and Millie and all
>
>  Thanks Jim for all your support.  You there Millie? Just wondering how
> you are?
> Jeanie<3
>
>  In a message dated 4/30/2013 5:51:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> [email protected] writes:
>
>   Hi Peg, I also have the cramping, I'm on Gleevec since it was approved
> in the USA. I was dxed 4/12,1997. I've experienced many of the known side
> effects. Eye bleeds, cramping in the legs(upper and lower), feet insteps,
> forearm, hands, I inquired abut muscle relaxers and Onc. gave me some and
> it didn't help. The legs and hands respond to hot water, the feet don't! My
> Pcr test is negative that's a plus that we are so happy for. I'm 68 and the
> side effects aren't bad enough for me to want to venture into the unknown
> with a different med. that may not even work for me or the side effects are
> worse than what I currently have.
>
> 18s to all my fellow warriors we must never give up research is making
> head way as never before who knows what they ill come up with next. some
> day the big "C' will stand for CURE. I pray every day for that AMEN. God
> Bless us all. Jim Rodeghier
>
> --- On *Mon, 4/29/13, peg <[email protected]>* wrote:
>
>
> From: peg <[email protected]>
> Subject: [CMLHope] TKI Spasticity
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Monday, April 29, 2013, 10:57 AM
>
> Hi all,
>
>  Sorry it takes me a while to catch up these days.  Just read Beth's post
> on spasticity and wanted to share.  There are many folks having muscle
> related problems with all of the CML drugs.  The spectrum ranges from the
> seriousness of myopathy to simple muscles spasms, with everything in
> between.  Gleevec gave me myopathy.  Because I was not a good candidate for
> Tasigna we moved directly to Sprycel back in 2010...before it was front
> line approved.  For me Sprycel causes such severe muscle contractions that
> I have developed contractures in several places in my body. At first we
> just thought it was my arthritis causing limited range of motion, but then
> several months ago finally realized what had happened.  I am in physical
> therapy now to improve my range of motion.  We have also had to radically
> adjust the Sprycel dosing...not just for the contractures, but also the
> crippling fatigue, mind numbing brain fog, bone pain and Sprycel induced
> depression.  The only time I feel really good now is on Sprycel "holidays".
>
>
>  After many dose reductions here's where I am at...in 2011 we started
> dropping the daily dose....first 70mg then 50mg.  We also tried 50mg every
> other day, then 20mg daily.  All of these changes still held me at PCRU.
>  But even at 20mg daily it was difficult to have a normal life.  There was
> also a concern from the specialist I see who helped develop Spycel.  He
> believes that from what he is seeing, the way Sprycel affects the CML is
> more related to the size of each dose, rather than the frequency, so he had
> a concern that 20mg a day would not hold the PCRU. Although I have heard of
> cases where it is.  We also noted that for me a "washout" of a few days off
> Sprycel helped me recover from the side effects. Without that washout, the
> affects would load up.  So this was when we started experimenting  last Oct
> with twice weekly dosing.  Unfortunately 70mg still proved to high a single
> dose for me, so we did a brief five months at 50mg every third day.
> However, the side effects from each dose are still so severe, it is like
> sticking my finger in a light socket, everything in my body clenches.  This
> starts two hours after each dose and lasts for almost 24 hours.  Every
> third day dosing was just craziness, since I couldn't plan around that
> well...and found myself dragging myself painfully through life every third
> day...hating every minute of it.  We finally realized that the only way I
> could have any quality of life was to drop back to a twice a week dose and
> take those days out of my schedule...just plan on being down for the count
> on those two same days each week.
>
>  So we are now at 50mg two days a week.  I take a muscle relaxer with
> each dose, and again at 12 hours if I need it.  This really helps with the
> muscle spasms.  I lose two days out of my week, but the quality of the
> other five is much better now.  We are monitoring my PCR monthly to see if
> the PCRU still holds.
>
>  I can't recommend experimenting for everyone...it carries a risk of
> becoming resistant.  However, the quality of my life had become so bad that
> the cost of saving my life was no longer worth it. Life in the absence of
> any quality is simply not a life.
>
>  For those of you who's reactions to TKI are not as dramatic as mine,
> adding a muscle relaxer to each dose, even daily, might bring the muscle
> spasm relief you need.  My drug of choice is Robaxin...but to each man his
> own!
>
>  Warmest regards to everyone!
>
>  Peg
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