Hi Marty:

I'm sure I speak for all of us when I say that I, too, wish there had been a 
TKI when you were diagnosed.  But being the warrior that you are, you have such 
a positive attitude.  Plus, we all feel the love and compassion you constantly 
extend.

Do you know how Zavie set up the conference calls?  I'd love to start that up 
but don't know how.  I intend to find out because I think it would be fantastic 
if our group could have a conference call at least once or twice a month.

Take good care.

Much love and 18s,

Marcie


-----Original Message-----
From: Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Jul 14, 2013 8:05 am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope]


Hi Marcie and everyone else.


What else can I say about having to go through life having CML? Well, there is 
actually a lot that I can say about having CML.


So, let me start... You have to remember having and living with CML is no 
longer a "death sentence" as it once was. In 1998 when I was first diagnosed it 
was.


Little did I know that one day there would be something that there would be 
able to take like Gleevec or any other TKI that would be able to give me my 
life back instead of having to go through a bone marrow transplant and having 
to live in a very small 5 by 9 plastic bubble in a hospital for seven months 
not knowing if I would live or die.


I am not even going to go through what I went through because that would be 
counter productive for everyone. Even though, I suffered greatly with many of 
the symptoms you describe. Even so I had the upper hand because of how I was 
able to train my mind to be able to overcome just about everything that I was 
going through at the time. My memory loss was so bad that while I was trying to 
speak a sentence I was unable to remember the next words in that sentence while 
I was talking. Talking about how frustrating that was is very difficult to 
describe. And I was only 45 years old at the time 


Even now, I have kidney failure but I simply choose to deal with what I have 
knowing that no matter what I may be going through I just have to deal with it 
and simply  try to live my life as best as I can, which is what I try and do.


So with that said I want all of you to realize that no matter what you might be 
going through your still alive and able to keep it that way until something 
better comes along. What I mean is that with all of the recent advances that 
have come along, being able to deal with your disease is now your chance for 
living your life until something better comes along like a cure. And there is 
no doubt in my mind that it will come along.


So I leave you with my two numbers that represent life.


18's


Marty




On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Richard H <[email protected]> wrote:

I love to use this statement "I had a mind like a steel trap" when I speak of 
my memory loss.  I now  add "and now it make a good strainer".  I hope tou get 
a chance to go down to 400mg Gleevec.


Richard H. 

On Saturday, July 13, 2013 8:10:09 AM UTC-5, caselmar wrote:
Hi Millie:
 
I've lost a lot of eyelashes and brows, too.  Even have done false lashes when 
I had a wedding to go to.  Part of the problem I see with people is that almost 
everyone knows someone who has had cancer.  Most of those patients either had 
infused chemo and/or radiation.  So they were bad but a point came where they 
recovered and life went on.  For us, at least for me, there is no chance in the 
near future that I'll be off of Gleevec.  Our problems and side effects often 
take time to occur, memory loss is one for me.
 
I had a mind like a steel trap.  Now, I can remember long term things but short 
term is going faster than a speeding bullet.  People who don't get it tell me 
it is normal at my age to start losing your memory.  I know that as you age 
your memory may worsen but at 61, I don't think so.  Plus, I can tell it is a 
rapid increase in what I am forgetting.
 
My bone pain and muscle cramps are very severe, and naturally the fatigue is 
far worse.  I wonder if one day sooner rather than later I'll be in a 
wheelchair or on a walker.  Sometimes I can't zip up a dress or coat, even if 
it is front zip.  If it is a back zip, forget it.  My husband needs to be here 
to help with that.  I can't hook bracelets or necklaces.  None of this is major 
because I'm so grateful to be alive.  But it is still a quality of life issue.  
I tend to have bad Gleevec stomach.  I try to stay away from foods that trigger 
it.  But being from Maryland, I love steamed crabs.  I eat them but somewhere 
within a 15 minute drive to my house so I can use my own bathroom when the 
diarrhea hits.  There is no spontaneous planning because I always have to look 
at how far I'll be from home because of this.
 
That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about that people don't get.  They see me 
and think, well she works, she looks pretty good for someone with leukemia, 
must not be too bad.  And for the most part, they are correct.  I have a 
positive attitude and feel very blessed to have an illness that is manageable.  
CML has made me appreciate every single day.
 
Hope your results from the biopsy come in quickly.  I know my bone marrow 
results came in yesterday but my onc didn't call.  He and I have a wonderful 
relationship so I'm assuming that he just didn't get a chance to look them 
over.  He is one of the team doctors for the Baltimore Orioles and he may have 
been at the game yesterday.  Normally I don't worry about the results but he 
has agreed that if they are good, he's going to try and take me down from 600 
mg of Gleevec to 400 for a trial period of 3 months.  Hoping that will help 
with the side effects.  If not, I'll just deal with it.
 
Best of luck, have a great weekend, and I think you are a wonderful person and 
terrific friend!
 
Marcie


-----Original Message-----
From: C.M. Houtz <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:08 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope]



    Hi Marcie
            I also wear a wig when I go out, and at times around the house, but 
don't cook with one, and, usually, don't wear one around close friends.  My 
hair is a mass of fuzz and I do have a gal that comes to my house and trims it 
every 6 weeks, but there isn't much to take off...Mostly in the back.  My 
eyelashes are gone, and my eyebrows thinning a lot.  No, most people don't 
understand how we feel, and on here, we can share these things.  I have a 
friend....who told me once that if I'd take long walks it would be good for me. 
 Well, I'm sure that it would, and I would love to be doing that, but my legs 
won't  , so I'm stuck in my jazzy (elec chair) most of the time.  I still can 
manage some with a walker, but it's getting to the point where I have to have a 
transport chair...and someone to push it when I go out.  That makes it 
difficult for me to attend things with my friends, etc.  My arms don't work 
well either...about the same as my legs.  I can't lift my arms, especially the 
left one without a lot of pain.  I do what I can do, but, unless you have these 
health issues, you don't understand that it isn't something that we choose to 
have.  My friend meant well, but just doesn't get it.  Most of my very dear 
close friends have suffered from some type of Cancer.  They understand much 
better.  I love turbans, but have trouble putting them on and keeping them on.  
I think they look neat.  I wouldn't wear them out, but around the house I 
would.  I've never tried to bake with my wig on, but will think about it now 
that you've warned me.  Mostly, I just laugh at how I look as I can't do much 
about it.  Tasigna has left my skin so dry and wearing makeup just doesn't 
work.  Oh well, it is what it is.....right?  We just do the best that we can. 
 
 My oncologist is going to be upset as I didn't get the results of the biopsy 
yet and I must see him on Monday.  He's such a love, and would hate to ever 
change doctors.  You don't find doctors that call you when they need to talk to 
you (they have their staff do that), but since all of this liver  stuff has 
come up, he calls me often.  I also can call him and actually get to talk to 
him.  I am truly a lucky lady.
 
You take care of yourself, and I'm so glad that we can share things with one 
another.  
Many hugs,
Millie

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