Hi Marcie,

Yes I do know how Zavie had set up everything. I was a part of it.
We used to use skype and would all meet up on Tuesday evening at 7:30 PM.

If only one person buys the multiparty part of it then everyone can get on
at the same time and speak to each other, up to I believe six people at one
time.

I have been on skype for many years so if you or anyone would like to skype
me then just go on and download skype and do a search for me. just put in
my email address and it will find me and send me a message to include you
into my contacts list. Once I see it I will then recognize you and we are
all set. You will need a microphone and a web cam but not necessary it you
just want to use voice over skype.

18's

Marty


On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 9:29 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Marty:
>
> I'm sure I speak for all of us when I say that I, too, wish there had been
> a TKI when you were diagnosed.  But being the warrior that you are, you
> have such a positive attitude.  Plus, we all feel the love and compassion
> you constantly extend.
>
> Do you know how Zavie set up the conference calls?  I'd love to start that
> up but don't know how.  I intend to find out because I think it would be
> fantastic if our group could have a conference call at least once or twice
> a month.
>
> Take good care.
>
> Much love and 18s,
>
> Marcie
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]>
> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 14, 2013 8:05 am
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope]
>
>  Hi Marcie and everyone else.
>
> What else can I say about having to go through life having CML? Well,
> there is actually a lot that I can say about having CML.
>
>  So, let me start... You have to remember having and living with CML is
> no longer a "death sentence" as it once was. In 1998 when I was first
> diagnosed it was.
>
>  Little did I know that one day there would be something that there would
> be able to take like Gleevec or any other TKI that would be able to give me
> my life back instead of having to go through a bone marrow transplant and
> having to live in a very small 5 by 9 plastic bubble in a hospital for
> seven months not knowing if I would live or die.
>
>  I am not even going to go through what I went through because that would
> be counter productive for everyone. Even though, I suffered greatly with
> many of the symptoms you describe. Even so I had the upper hand because of
> how I was able to train my mind to be able to overcome just about
> everything that I was going through at the time. My memory loss was so bad
> that while I was trying to speak a sentence I was unable to remember the
> next words in that sentence while I was talking. Talking about how
> frustrating that was is very difficult to describe. And I was only 45 years
> old at the time
>
>  Even now, I have kidney failure but I simply choose to deal with what I
> have knowing that no matter what I may be going through I just have to deal
> with it and simply  try to live my life as best as I can, which is what I
> try and do.
>
>  So with that said I want all of you to realize that no matter what you
> might be going through your still alive and able to keep it that way until
> something better comes along. What I mean is that with all of the recent
> advances that have come along, being able to deal with your disease is now
> your chance for living your life until something better comes along like a
> cure. And there is no doubt in my mind that it will come along.
>
>  So I leave you with my two numbers that represent life.
>
>  18's
>
>  Marty
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Richard H 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> I love to use this statement "I had a mind like a steel trap" when I
>> speak of my memory loss.  I now  add "and now it make a good strainer".  I
>> hope tou get a chance to go down to 400mg Gleevec.
>>
>>  Richard H.
>>
>> On Saturday, July 13, 2013 8:10:09 AM UTC-5, caselmar wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi Millie:
>>>
>>> I've lost a lot of eyelashes and brows, too.  Even have done false
>>> lashes when I had a wedding to go to.  Part of the problem I see with
>>> people is that almost everyone knows someone who has had cancer.  Most of
>>> those patients either had infused chemo and/or radiation.  So they were bad
>>> but a point came where they recovered and life went on.  For us, at least
>>> for me, there is no chance in the near future that I'll be off of Gleevec.
>>> Our problems and side effects often take time to occur, memory loss is one
>>> for me.
>>>
>>> I had a mind like a steel trap.  Now, I can remember long term things
>>> but short term is going faster than a speeding bullet.  People who don't
>>> get it tell me it is normal at my age to start losing your memory.  I know
>>> that as you age your memory may worsen but at 61, I don't think so.  Plus,
>>> I can tell it is a rapid increase in what I am forgetting.
>>>
>>> My bone pain and muscle cramps are very severe, and naturally the
>>> fatigue is far worse.  I wonder if one day sooner rather than later I'll be
>>> in a wheelchair or on a walker.  Sometimes I can't zip up a dress or coat,
>>> even if it is front zip.  If it is a back zip, forget it.  My husband needs
>>> to be here to help with that.  I can't hook bracelets or necklaces.  None
>>> of this is major because I'm so grateful to be alive.  But it is still a
>>> quality of life issue.  I tend to have bad Gleevec stomach.  I try to stay
>>> away from foods that trigger it.  But being from Maryland, I love steamed
>>> crabs.  I eat them but somewhere within a 15 minute drive to my house so I
>>> can use my own bathroom when the diarrhea hits.  There is no spontaneous
>>> planning because I always have to look at how far I'll be from home because
>>> of this.
>>>
>>> That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about that people don't get.  They
>>> see me and think, well she works, she looks pretty good for someone with
>>> leukemia, must not be too bad.  And for the most part, they are correct.  I
>>> have a positive attitude and feel very blessed to have an illness that is
>>> manageable.  CML has made me appreciate every single day.
>>>
>>> Hope your results from the biopsy come in quickly.  I know my bone
>>> marrow results came in yesterday but my onc didn't call.  He and I have a
>>> wonderful relationship so I'm assuming that he just didn't get a chance to
>>> look them over.  He is one of the team doctors for the Baltimore Orioles
>>> and he may have been at the game yesterday.  Normally I don't worry about
>>> the results but he has agreed that if they are good, he's going to try and
>>> take me down from 600 mg of Gleevec to 400 for a trial period of 3 months.
>>> Hoping that will help with the side effects.  If not, I'll just deal with
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Best of luck, have a great weekend, and I think you are a wonderful
>>> person and terrific friend!
>>>
>>> Marcie
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>> From: C.M. Houtz <[email protected]>
>>> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:08 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope]
>>>
>>>  *    Hi Marcie*
>>> *            I also wear a wig when I go out, and at times around the
>>> house, but don't cook with one, and, usually, don't wear one around close
>>> friends.  My hair is a mass of fuzz and I do have a gal that comes to my
>>> house and trims it every 6 weeks, but there isn't much to take off...Mostly
>>> in the back.  My eyelashes are gone, and my eyebrows thinning a lot.  No,
>>> most people don't understand how we feel, and on here, we can share these
>>> things.  I have a friend....who told me once that if I'd take long walks it
>>> would be good for me.  Well, I'm sure that it would, and I would love to be
>>> doing that, but my legs won't , so I'm stuck in my jazzy (elec chair) most
>>> of the time.  I still can manage some with a walker, but it's getting to
>>> the point where I have to have a transport chair...and someone to push it
>>> when I go out.  That makes it difficult for me to attend things with my
>>> friends, etc.  My arms don't work well either...about the same as my legs.
>>> I can't lift my arms, especially the left one without a lot of pain.  I do
>>> what I can do, but, unless you have these health issues, you don't
>>> understand that it isn't something that we choose to have.  My friend meant
>>> well, but just doesn't get it.  Most of my very dear close friends have
>>> suffered from some type of Cancer.  They understand much better.  I love
>>> turbans, but have trouble putting them on and keeping them on.  I think
>>> they look neat.  I wouldn't wear them out, but around the house I would.
>>> I've never tried to bake with my wig on, but will think about it now that
>>> you've warned me.  Mostly, I just laugh at how I look as I can't do much
>>> about it.  Tasigna has left my skin so dry and wearing makeup just doesn't
>>> work.  Oh well, it is what it is.....right?  We just do the best that we
>>> can. *
>>> **
>>> * My oncologist is going to be upset as I didn't get the results of the
>>> biopsy yet and I must see him on Monday.  He's such a love, and would hate
>>> to ever change doctors.  You don't find doctors that call you when they
>>> need to talk to you (they have their staff do that), but since all of this
>>> liver  stuff has come up, he calls me often.  I also can call him and
>>> actually get to talk to him.  I am truly a lucky lady.*
>>> **
>>> *You take care of yourself, and I'm so glad that we can share things
>>> with one another.  *
>>> *Many hugs,*
>>> *Millie*
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