Thanks Marty and so sorry you had to go through that and glad  you are back 
to normal.  We are called warriors and that's exactly what we  are.  We 
battle this disease and the side effects daily and worry about our  blood 
counts daily, at least I do.  Some of us have other health problems  that are 
also life threatening, and then we are having to mix our meds with our  CML 
drugs and that is a struggle in and of itself.
I remember when I was in the hospital one time having my blood  cleansed, 
the counts just wouldn't come back down even with the cleansing.   I finally 
talked my onc into putting me on Sprycel.  My PCD had me on a  proton pump 
inhibitor that they were giving me twice a day.  Before I got  the Sprycel my 
onc had me on 600 mgs gleevec and it wasn't helping at all.   So here I am 
in the hospital reading the pamphlet that comes with the Sprycel  and it 
says no proton pump inhibitors with Sprycel.  Well, they kept trying  to get me 
to take it, and I showed them the info.  I finally refused to  take it.  I 
feel those inhibitors were probably keeping the Gleevec from  working. 
Sometimes we just have to read and inform ourselves and even  then we might 
be talked into taking a drug that isn't good for us.
Have a good weekend all,
Jeanie<3
 
 
In a message dated 8/17/2013 2:20:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Hi Jeanie,  


I would like to tell you and everyone else a story about me and what  
recently happened to me.


As you know, I am on dialysis and am also on Warfrin, a blood thinner. In  
order to get my dialysis they have to stick two large gauge needles #14 
gauge  into my arm and into my access point that is under the skin.


Once my dialysis is finished they remove the needles and I have to hold  
several gauze pads over my access points for about five minutes in order to  
stop the bleeding. 


Well, this past Monday the bleeding could not be stopped from my arterial  
part of the port called the fistula. I had to hold it on for more then an 
hour  but it still wouldn't stop bleeding so they put a special clamp over the 
 access points and left it there for another half hour. When they removed 
it  the blood just started spurting out again. 


The clamp was put on once more and it finally stooped bleeding. I went  
home with the clamp still on and had dinner. After I finished my dinner I  
decided to remove the clamp and it again started spurting out again all over  
the kitchen floor. I then put the clamp on again and went to the hospital for  
further treatment.


I'm telling you this story for a reason that doesn't as yet make any  sense 
but you will understand more...


When I arrived at the hospital that took a CBC blood test and told me  that 
it would be ready in an hour. Now here is where my mind took over.  Because 
my bleeding was very severe I thought that my platelets may be low.  This 
is exactly what happened to me twenty three years ago and I was then  
diagnosed with Leukemia.


So with this happening my mind started in with what if my Leukemia has  
returned, and I started sweating until the results came back. 


Now you all know me, but I am still human just like all of the rest of  you 
but I usually know how to control my mind and feelings and thoughts.  
Emotions are very powerful if you can't or won't control them, but this time  
it 
just brought back some terrible thoughts because of what I once went  
through. I always try to discipline myself through most things but sometimes  
just 
being human it is something that we must all try to deal  with. 


So Jeanie and all of the rest of you, whenever your waiting for the  
results of any tests I want you to try and remember that your all human and  
sometimes your going to worry about the test results until you get them back.  
It 
is only then that you will have to deal with them, and you will whether  
good or bad.


In my case the bleeding was caused by to high an INR level was in my  blood 
(to thin from the doses of Warfren). The bleeding finally stoped by  itself 
after four more hours and I was discharged from the hospital after 1:30  AM 
and we went home.


I started eating more dark greens and some Broccoli and asparagus and  
lessened the dose of Warfren after speaking to my doctor.


When I went back on Wednesday for my four hour dialysis treatment and  once 
it was finished the bleeding stooped within five minutes, as it usually  
does


You all remember what I always say, your mind does control your body. CML  
is a strange disease it does effect both your mind and body. Even after 
these  past twenty three years for me, and I have learned to be able to control 
my  mind. 


I feel very close to all of you, or I wouldn't have told you this  personal 
story.


We must live with what we have, and the key word in that statement is  live.


Remember that we are all human. 


18's


Marty



On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 11:50 AM, <[email protected]_ 
(mailto:[email protected]) > wrote:


Hi and I did almost the same on Tasi.  I never  reached PCRU until I was 
put on Sprycel. This happened almost 6 years after  I was dx.
I saw so much of my doctor the  nurse told me I  should put a bed in the 
office.
I have scars in my arms where they took blood so  often.
I just reached the stage of going every 6 months about 6  months ago, but I 
do have my blood checked by my primary doctor  often.
It's funny about our blood test, we want to see them but  we are afraid of 
the results.  I am still afraid after all these  years.  I know how you can 
be going along well and then all of a sudden  everything goes out of whack.
Faith and pills get me through each day. Good luck and  blessings everyone.
Jeanie<3
 
 
 
In a message dated 8/15/2013 8:44:21 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])  writes:

 

I was on Tasignia until it stopped working and had blasts so they  admitted 
me to hospital and started oral ponatanib 45mg  daily.    Took 2 solid 
months of hospitalization for my  neutrophils to come down and platelets to go 
up.  Got a unit of blood  almost every single day and sometimes two, and 
would get at least one bag  platelets per day and often 3 or more.   Finally my 
numbers  started to pick up and they let me go home.   I havn't felt what  I 
would call "well" since being on this drug but at least they are  saying I 
am in Hematological remission, not molecular but that is my  goal.  I see my 
hematologist every week for labs to  determine if I need another unit of 
red blood cells and usually  my hemologin has been running around 8.5 which 
means I get a  unit of blood.   So on Tuesdays i go for labs and then  return 
on Wednesdays for blood if needed.    This sure  beats the alternative - not 
being well.    
 
On Gleevac I experienced eye bleeds. 



 
 

From: Susan Zimmerman <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >
To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])  
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 4:49  PM
Subject: Re: [CMLHope]  Ponatinib


Thanks Maggy for answering.  I'd  like to hear more about how you are doing 
on this drug.  Not sure  which one they will put me on after determining 
why I am having brain  bleed tendencies.    
Was on gleevec for 2 yrs 3 mos, on nothing now for six years because  of 
brain bleeds.  Numbers were going up upon last check, tried 15  days of 
tasigna and had an indication again of brain bleeding.  Sept.  4th going to 
Northwestern Univ. again to try to determine the  cause.

Blessings,
Susan F. Zimmerman



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<[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >
To: cmlhope <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >
Sent: Tue, Aug 13, 2013  2:36 am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Ponatinib


 
 




Yes, been on this drug since around first week of  June.  45 mg I believe.  
Was hospitalized for almost two months  while the drug did its  thing.     



 
 

From: John  Barrons <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >
To: CML Hope <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) 
> 
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:53  AM
Subject: [CMLHope]  Ponatinib


I have had CML for almost 14 years now. I failed gleevec and  sprycel and 
am now on ponatinib. Is there anybody in this group who is on  this drug? 

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