That's why Mommy Lottie did so much research and posted it on the CML2
site. Too bad she died. She was a great woman, GOD rest her soul.

18's

Marty


On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:36 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> **
> Thanks Marty, so right.  Your Doctor isn't you and some don't read up on
> the recent studies and etc.  My onc told me he wouldn't want to know
> everything about a disease if he had it, but I am just the opposite.  I
> read everything I could find on CML when I was first dx.   I am
> a researcher and I believe the more knowledge we have the better we can use
> the medicines to our advantage.  However, that said, it is hard to read all
> the side effects of our meds and then plop them in our mouths.  I use what
> I call faith and meds.  It seems to work for me.
> Blessings to all,
> Jeanie<3
>
>  In a message dated 8/17/2013 4:44:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> [email protected] writes:
>
> Dear Jeanie, Beth and everyone else that may be reading this...
>
> It is your bodies and if it doesn't feel right (the medicine, proton pumps
> or anything else then you must question it)
>
> And do you know why? Medicine is called a practice...
>
> 18's
>
> Marty
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 6:20 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> **
>> Thanks Marty and so sorry you had to go through that and glad you are
>> back to normal.  We are called warriors and that's exactly what we are.  We
>> battle this disease and the side effects daily and worry about our blood
>> counts daily, at least I do.  Some of us have other health problems that
>> are also life threatening, and then we are having to mix our meds with our
>> CML drugs and that is a struggle in and of itself.
>> I remember when I was in the hospital one time having my blood cleansed,
>> the counts just wouldn't come back down even with the cleansing.  I finally
>> talked my onc into putting me on Sprycel.  My PCD had me on a proton pump
>> inhibitor that they were giving me twice a day.  Before I got the Sprycel
>> my onc had me on 600 mgs gleevec and it wasn't helping at all.  So here I
>> am in the hospital reading the pamphlet that comes with the Sprycel and it
>> says no proton pump inhibitors with Sprycel.  Well, they kept trying to get
>> me to take it, and I showed them the info.  I finally refused to take it.
>> I feel those inhibitors were probably keeping the Gleevec from working.
>> Sometimes we just have to read and inform ourselves and even then we
>> might be talked into taking a drug that isn't good for us.
>> Have a good weekend all,
>> Jeanie<3
>>
>>  In a message dated 8/17/2013 2:20:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> [email protected] writes:
>>
>> Hi Jeanie,
>>
>> I would like to tell you and everyone else a story about me and what
>> recently happened to me.
>>
>> As you know, I am on dialysis and am also on Warfrin, a blood thinner. In
>> order to get my dialysis they have to stick two large gauge needles #14
>> gauge into my arm and into my access point that is under the skin.
>>
>> Once my dialysis is finished they remove the needles and I have to hold
>> several gauze pads over my access points for about five minutes in order to
>> stop the bleeding.
>>
>> Well, this past Monday the bleeding could not be stopped from my arterial
>> part of the port called the fistula. I had to hold it on for more then an
>> hour but it still wouldn't stop bleeding so they put a special clamp over
>> the access points and left it there for another half hour. When they
>> removed it the blood just started spurting out again.
>>
>> The clamp was put on once more and it finally stooped bleeding. I went
>> home with the clamp still on and had dinner. After I finished my dinner I
>> decided to remove the clamp and it again started spurting out again all
>> over the kitchen floor. I then put the clamp on again and went to the
>> hospital for further treatment.
>>
>> I'm telling you this story for a reason that doesn't as yet make any
>> sense but you will understand more...
>>
>> When I arrived at the hospital that took a CBC blood test and told me
>> that it would be ready in an hour. Now here is where my mind took over.
>> Because my bleeding was very severe I thought that my platelets may be low.
>> This is exactly what happened to me twenty three years ago and I was then
>> diagnosed with Leukemia.
>>
>> So with this happening my mind started in with what if my Leukemia has
>> returned, and I started sweating until the results came back.
>>
>> Now you all know me, but I am still human just like all of the rest of
>> you but I usually know how to control my mind and feelings and thoughts.
>> Emotions are very powerful if you can't or won't control them, but this
>> time it just brought back some terrible thoughts because of what I once
>> went through. I always try to discipline myself through most things but
>> sometimes just being human it is something that we must all try to deal
>> with.
>>
>> So Jeanie and all of the rest of you, whenever your waiting for the
>> results of any tests I want you to try and remember that your all human and
>> sometimes your going to worry about the test results until you get them
>> back. It is only then that you will have to deal with them, and you will
>> whether good or bad.
>>
>> In my case the bleeding was caused by to high an INR level was in my
>> blood (to thin from the doses of Warfren). The bleeding finally stoped by
>> itself after four more hours and I was discharged from the hospital after
>> 1:30 AM and we went home.
>>
>> I started eating more dark greens and some Broccoli and asparagus and
>> lessened the dose of Warfren after speaking to my doctor.
>>
>> When I went back on Wednesday for my four hour dialysis treatment and
>> once it was finished the bleeding stooped within five minutes, as it
>> usually does
>>
>> You all remember what I always say, your mind does control your body. CML
>> is a strange disease it does effect both your mind and body. Even after
>> these past twenty three years for me, and I have learned to be able to
>> control my mind.
>>
>> I feel very close to all of you, or I wouldn't have told you this
>> personal story.
>>
>> We must live with what we have, and the key word in that statement is
>> live.
>>
>> Remember that we are all human.
>>
>> 18's
>>
>> Marty
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 11:50 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>> Hi and I did almost the same on Tasi.  I never reached PCRU until I was
>>> put on Sprycel. This happened almost 6 years after I was dx.
>>> I saw so much of my doctor the  nurse told me I should put a bed in the
>>> office.
>>> I have scars in my arms where they took blood so often.
>>> I just reached the stage of going every 6 months about 6 months ago, but
>>> I do have my blood checked by my primary doctor often.
>>> It's funny about our blood test, we want to see them but we are afraid
>>> of the results.  I am still afraid after all these years.  I know how you
>>> can be going along well and then all of a sudden everything goes out of
>>> whack.
>>> Faith and pills get me through each day. Good luck and blessings
>>> everyone.
>>> Jeanie<3
>>>
>>>
>>>  In a message dated 8/15/2013 8:44:21 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>>> [email protected] writes:
>>>
>>>
>>> I was on Tasignia until it stopped working and had blasts so they
>>> admitted me to hospital and started oral ponatanib 45mg daily.    Took 2
>>> solid months of hospitalization for my neutrophils to come down and
>>> platelets to go up.  Got a unit of blood almost every single day and
>>> sometimes two, and would get at least one bag platelets per day and often 3
>>> or more.   Finally my numbers started to pick up and they let me go home.
>>> I havn't felt what I would call "well" since being on this drug but at
>>> least they are saying I am in Hematological remission, not molecular but
>>> that is my goal.  I see my hematologist every week for labs to determine if
>>> I need another unit of red blood cells and usually my hemologin has been
>>> running around 8.5 which means I get a unit of blood.   So on Tuesdays i go
>>> for labs and then return on Wednesdays for blood if needed.    This sure
>>> beats the alternative - not being well.
>>>
>>> On Gleevac I experienced eye bleeds.
>>>
>>>   *From:* Susan Zimmerman <[email protected]>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 14, 2013 4:49 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [CMLHope] Ponatinib
>>>
>>> Thanks Maggy for answering.  I'd like to hear more about how you are
>>> doing on this drug.  Not sure which one they will put me on after
>>> determining why I am having brain bleed tendencies.
>>> Was on gleevec for 2 yrs 3 mos, on nothing now for six years because of
>>> brain bleeds.  Numbers were going up upon last check, tried 15 days of
>>> tasigna and had an indication again of brain bleeding.  Sept. 4th going to
>>> Northwestern Univ. again to try to determine the cause.
>>>
>>> Blessings,
>>> Susan F. Zimmerman
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Tue, Aug 13, 2013 2:36 am
>>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Ponatinib
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, been on this drug since around first week of June.  45 mg I
>>> believe.  Was hospitalized for almost two months while the drug did its
>>> thing.
>>>
>>>   *From:* John Barrons <[email protected]>
>>> *To:* CML Hope <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2013 10:53 AM
>>> *Subject:* [CMLHope] Ponatinib
>>>
>>> I have had CML for almost 14 years now. I failed gleevec and sprycel and
>>> am now on ponatinib. Is there anybody in this group who is on this drug?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
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