Faith and meds is a good combination, Jeannie.  I'm with ya!!!  
Marty and Millie, you are both sooo sweet.  I love you, too!



Susan 
"Look among the nations and watch; be utterly astounded!  For I will work a 
work in your days which you would not believe, though it were told you."  Hab. 
1:5



-----Original Message-----
From: ICANDOALLTTC <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:39 am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] living life with cml



Thanks Marty, so right.  Your Doctor isn't you and some don't read up on the 
recent studies and etc.  My onc told me he wouldn't want to know everything 
about a disease if he had it, but I am just the opposite.  I read everything I 
could find on CML when I was first dx.   I am a researcher and I believe the 
more knowledge we have the better we can use the medicines to our advantage.  
However, that said, it is hard to read all the side effects of our meds and 
then plop them in our mouths.  I use what I call faith and meds.  It seems to 
work for me.
Blessings to all,
Jeanie<3
 

In a message dated 8/17/2013 4:44:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:
  
Dear Jeanie, Beth and everyone else that may be reading this...   


  
It is your bodies and if it doesn't feel right (the medicine, proton   pumps or 
anything else then you must question it)
  


  
And do you know why? Medicine is called a practice...
  


  
18's
  


  
Marty
  


  
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 6:20 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
  
    
    
Thanks Marty and so sorry you had to go through that and     glad you are back 
to normal.  We are called warriors and that's exactly     what we are.  We 
battle this disease and the side effects daily and     worry about our blood 
counts daily, at least I do.  Some of us have     other health problems that 
are also life threatening, and then we are having     to mix our meds with our 
CML drugs and that is a struggle in and of     itself.
    
I remember when I was in the hospital one time having my     blood cleansed, 
the counts just wouldn't come back down even with the     cleansing.  I finally 
talked my onc into putting me on Sprycel.      My PCD had me on a proton pump 
inhibitor that they were giving me twice a     day.  Before I got the Sprycel 
my onc had me on 600 mgs gleevec and it     wasn't helping at all.  So here I 
am in the hospital reading the     pamphlet that comes with the Sprycel and it 
says no proton pump inhibitors     with Sprycel.  Well, they kept trying to get 
me to take it, and I     showed them the info.  I finally refused to take it.  
I feel those     inhibitors were probably keeping the Gleevec from working. 
    
Sometimes we just have to read and inform ourselves and     even then we might 
be talked into taking a drug that isn't good for     us.
    
Have a good weekend all,
    
Jeanie<3
    
 
    
    
In a message dated 8/17/2013 2:20:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:
    
      
Hi Jeanie,       


      
I would like to tell you and everyone else a story about me and what       
recently happened to me.
      


      
As you know, I am on dialysis and am also on Warfrin, a blood       thinner. In 
order to get my dialysis they have to stick two large gauge       needles #14 
gauge into my arm and into my access point that is under the       skin.
      


      
Once my dialysis is finished they remove the needles and I have to       hold 
several gauze pads over my access points for about five minutes in       order 
to stop the bleeding. 
      


      
Well, this past Monday the bleeding could not be stopped from my       arterial 
part of the port called the fistula. I had to hold it on for more       then an 
hour but it still wouldn't stop bleeding so they put a special       clamp over 
the access points and left it there for another half hour. When       they 
removed it the blood just started spurting out again. 
      


      
The clamp was put on once more and it finally stooped bleeding. I       went 
home with the clamp still on and had dinner. After I finished my       dinner I 
decided to remove the clamp and it again started spurting out       again all 
over the kitchen floor. I then put the clamp on again and went       to the 
hospital for further treatment.
      


      
I'm telling you this story for a reason that doesn't as yet make any       
sense but you will understand more...
      


      
When I arrived at the hospital that took a CBC blood test and told me       
that it would be ready in an hour. Now here is where my mind took over.       
Because my bleeding was very severe I thought that my platelets may be       
low. This is exactly what happened to me twenty three years ago and I was       
then diagnosed with Leukemia.
      


      
So with this happening my mind started in with what if my Leukemia       has 
returned, and I started sweating until the results came       back. 
      


      
Now you all know me, but I am still human just like all of the rest       of 
you but I usually know how to control my mind and feelings and       thoughts. 
Emotions are very powerful if you can't or won't control them,       but this 
time it just brought back some terrible thoughts because of what       I once 
went through. I always try to discipline myself through most things       but 
sometimes just being human it is something that we must all try to       deal 
with. 
      


      
So Jeanie and all of the rest of you, whenever your waiting for the       
results of any tests I want you to try and remember that your all human       
and sometimes your going to worry about the test results until you get       
them back. It is only then that you will have to deal with them, and you       
will whether good or bad.
      


      
In my case the bleeding was caused by to high an INR level was in my       
blood (to thin from the doses of Warfren). The bleeding finally stoped by       
itself after four more hours and I was discharged from the hospital after       
1:30 AM and we went home.
      


      
I started eating more dark greens and some Broccoli and asparagus and       
lessened the dose of Warfren after speaking to my doctor.
      


      
When I went back on Wednesday for my four hour dialysis treatment and       
once it was finished the bleeding stooped within five minutes, as it       
usually does
      


      
You all remember what I always say, your mind does control your body.       CML 
is a strange disease it does effect both your mind and body. Even       after 
these past twenty three years for me, and I have learned to be able       to 
control my mind. 
      


      
I feel very close to all of you, or I wouldn't have told you this       
personal story.
      


      
We must live with what we have, and the key word in that statement is       
live.
      


      
Remember that we are all human. 
      


      
18's
      


      
Marty
      


      
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 11:50 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
      
        
        
Hi and I did almost the same on Tasi.  I never         reached PCRU until I was 
put on Sprycel. This happened almost 6 years         after I was dx.
        
I saw so much of my doctor the  nurse told me I         should put a bed in the 
office.
        
I have scars in my arms where they took blood so         often.
        
I just reached the stage of going every 6 months about         6 months ago, 
but I do have my blood checked by my primary doctor         often.
        
It's funny about our blood test, we want to see them         but we are afraid 
of the results.  I am still afraid after all         these years.  I know how 
you can be going along well and then all         of a sudden everything goes 
out of whack.
        
Faith and pills get me through each day. Good luck and         blessings 
everyone.
        
Jeanie<3
        
 
        
 
        
        
In a message dated 8/15/2013 8:44:21 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:
        
          
          
 
          
I was on Tasignia until it stopped working and had blasts so they           
admitted me to hospital and started oral ponatanib 45mg           daily.    
Took 2 solid months of hospitalization for my           neutrophils to come 
down and platelets to go up.  Got a unit of           blood almost every single 
day and sometimes two, and would get at           least one bag platelets per 
day and often 3 or more.             Finally my numbers started to pick up and 
they let me go           home.   I havn't felt what I would call "well" since   
        being on this drug but at least they are saying I am in           
Hematological remission, not molecular but that is my goal.            I see my 
hematologist every week for labs to determine if I           need another unit 
of red blood cells and usually my hemologin has           been running around 
8.5 which means I get a unit of           blood.   So on Tuesdays i go for labs 
and then return           on Wednesdays for blood if needed.    This sure beats 
          the alternative - not being well.    
          
 
          
On Gleevac I experienced eye bleeds. 
          


          
          
          
          
From: Susan Zimmerman <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013           4:49 PM
Subject: Re:           [CMLHope] Ponatinib

          

          
Thanks Maggy for answering.            I'd like to hear more about how you are 
doing on this drug.            Not sure which one they will put me on after 
determining why I           am having brain bleed tendencies.             
Was on gleevec for 2 yrs 3 mos, on nothing now for six years           because 
of brain bleeds.  Numbers were going up upon last check,           tried 15 
days of tasigna and had an indication again of brain           bleeding.  Sept. 
4th going to Northwestern Univ. again to try to           determine the cause.

          
Blessings,
          
Susan F. Zimmerman
          


          
-----Original           Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Aug 13,           2013 2:36 am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Ponatinib

          
          
          
          


          
          
 
          
Yes, been on this drug since around first week of           June.  45 mg I 
believe.  Was hospitalized for almost two           months while the drug did 
its           thing.     
          


          
          
          
          
From: John           Barrons <[email protected]>
To: CML Hope <[email protected]> 
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013           10:53 AM
Subject:           [CMLHope] Ponatinib

          

I have had CML for almost 14 years now. I failed gleevec and           sprycel 
and am now on ponatinib. Is there anybody in this group who is           on 
this drug? 

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