Thanks Beth 
This helps a lot. I take tramodol for pain and they have put it into controlled 
drug status.  Don't know why. 
Imitrix works well but makes you feel weird. 
I am trying to cut down on sprycel.  I've been I remission for a while now. 
Just recently my platelets started rising. That has always been my problem. 
I've had to have my blood cleansed a few times because if this. 
Platelets and WBC will just start going way up. 
Glad you are managing so well. I have no muscle problems as of yet. 
Blessings and thanks
Jeanie🐠


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> On Nov 20, 2014, at 11:37 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes Jeannie. I used to go every two weeks, then once a month, now it's once 
> every 2-3 months. I will go every few weeks while off. Don't plan on being 
> off long term...but enough time to clear up some of these side effects and 
> build some physical strength/ muscle back. Then return and try to maintain my 
> physical self. I wish you could have some respite from the head aches. Jaw 
> pain..Have you been in remission for a while? They told me to pre-medicate so 
> minutes before taking sprycel with a pain med, t so I would not get such bad 
> headaches. I traded off between tramadol and imitrix. They did not want me to 
> get chronic headaches- migraines...I wish I could help more. I know we are 
> all so different. I am blessed to not have blood count issues. I am sure it 
> is because I have never been able to tolerate more than 40% of any drug or 
> less....Stay close. take care, Beth
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: icandoallttc via CMLHope <[email protected]>
> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tue, Nov 18, 2014 4:05 pm
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Beth sprycel ?
> 
> Thanks Beth 
> I have been thinking about going off for a while due to sore Ear  jaw. 
> I have been on sprycel for 5 years now.  
> Do you get your CBC while you are off to see how your counts are doing?
> Thanks so much. 
> Jeanie
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 18, 2014, at 4:55 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> HI Jeannie,
>> 
>> Yep, when I take time off, when I feel too toxic, I just go off for a brief 
>> period, doctor supervised, and then go back on. I usually have no 
>> withdrawal, but I am careful to not stay off too long or I will get the 
>> uptake side effects returning to the medication. For me, that's migraines 
>> with sprycel uptake...I am in complete remission from Dr. Druker's lab....a 
>> first, so am very blessed. Just navigating side effects, and the muscle 
>> issues...doing the best I can...
>> 
>> take good care...
>> 
>> Love, Beth
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: icandoallttc via CMLHope <[email protected]>
>> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tue, Nov 18, 2014 3:53 pm
>> Subject: [CMLHope] Beth sprycel ?
>> 
>> Hi Beth 
>> Sorry you haven't been well.  Prayers to you and family. 
>> When you stop your sprycel do you just  quit?  If you do do you have 
>> withdrawal?
>> Just wondering. I thought you were never supposed to just quit a drug.
>> Let me know And thanks. 
>> Blessing
>> Jeanie
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 18, 2014, at 4:39 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear Sue,
>>> 
>>> Sorry for the delay of this message. I had been feeling a bit under the 
>>> weather. As many others have done, I want to welcome you to our family here 
>>>  of CML'ers...we share a lot, care a lot and encourage each other through 
>>> this journey. I think many of us have gotten weird responses from those we 
>>> have shared with regarding our illnesses. Many times it takes  us educating 
>>> them about exactly what this means..even then, it's hard because we all 
>>> respond differently to the meds and thus, each have our own issues, side 
>>> effects etc.. to contend with. 
>>> 
>>> I hope gleevec will work for you. It's nice to know there are now several 
>>> other meds that are options..so remember that as you start this journey. 
>>> Know we are here to share this journey with you. I am sorry you had some 
>>> unsettling and upsetting reactions when you shared with others. Sometimes 
>>> people just don't get it or are miss informed. 
>>> 
>>> My own sister- who is an oncologist..said...take a pill..it's like taking a 
>>> vitamin everyday......so sometimes even the doctors, ( she is in research 
>>> and not patient care so doesn't have the input from real people), have not 
>>> a clue as to what we go through.
>>> 
>>> Hope you and others have a great week. I will try to write something to 
>>> update folks before the holidays. in short. I am doing O.K. Taking a 
>>> sprycel holiday for two weeks, then back on post Thanksgiving. Am finally 
>>> getting to the bottom of muscle disease issues..will know before the year 
>>> is out exactly what this is and what the treatment is. Happy about getting 
>>> clarity..Long time in coming.
>>> 
>>> Love to all...
>>> 
>>> Warmest regards..18's Beth
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: 'Susan Zimmerman' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
>>> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Tue, Nov 18, 2014 2:09 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Great NEWS
>>> 
>>> Greenie, we're traveling to Florida to Treasure Island, arriving Saturday 
>>> the 22nd.  Only be there 4 days, then going to New Orleans for T-giving..  
>>> Keep that warmth going for us for just four days.....please!  It's 17 
>>> degrees here right now.  Just FYI
>>> 
>>> Susan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Myvety2k via CMLHope <[email protected]>
>>> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Tue, Nov 18, 2014 11:06 am
>>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Great NEWS
>>> 
>>> I'm getting out all of my ice fishing clothing, long john's, etc, it's 60 
>>> deg. here in Fort Myers, FL.  But then my daughter is visiting friends at 
>>> the Wisconsin Dells and they live in Hawaii.  It's 12 deg. their.  It's 
>>> going to get back up in the low 80's by Thursday here. They warm everyone.
>>>  
>>> greenie
>>>  
>>> In a message dated 11/18/2014 10:23:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>>> [email protected] writes:
>>> Great day I Florida. Glad everyone is good. 
>>> Happy dance to all. 
>>> Jeanie 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2014, at 9:04 AM, "'Susan Zimmerman' via CMLHope" 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks Marty and everyone for your kind words.  I'm also gaining back 
>>>> energy daily.
>>>> 
>>>> Hey there, as a wrestler that Marty claims for me, I'm wrestling for all 
>>>> of YOU to steadily move forward in your own healings or remissions, which 
>>>> means I am praying for you to our precious heavenly Father, who knows your 
>>>> hearts.  Marty, we expect news soon of a kidney transplant happening for 
>>>> you!!!  Meanwhile all of our wishes are for you to feel well and have no 
>>>> problems with dialysis and energy.
>>>> 
>>>> Love and 18's,
>>>> 
>>>> Susan F. Zimmerman
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]>
>>>> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Mon, Nov 17, 2014 10:38 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Great NEWS
>>>> 
>>>> Susan,
>>>> 
>>>> Are you sure that in your former life you weren't a boxer or wrestler? You 
>>>> beat the crap out of CML! Good for you! We are all doing the "happy dance" 
>>>> for you.
>>>> 
>>>> So now you really know the meaning of 18's.
>>>> 
>>>> Marty
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 12:18 AM, 'Susan Zimmerman' via CMLHope 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Great e-mail to the new "Sue", Marty!!!  You are adorable and I love you. 
>>>>>  Welcome Sue from one to another....I have GREAT NEWS:
>>>>> You guessed it, I am MMR!!!!!  My numbers are .04% after 8 months on 
>>>>> lowest dose of bosulif.  YAY, doing the happy dance for all He has done 
>>>>> for me.  I went 7 yrs and 2 mos. without any medication after being on 
>>>>> gleevec 400 mg. for 2 yrs and 3 mos....had a brain hemmorhage, then 
>>>>> another, so stopped gleevec for 7 yrs.  Tried every other one and had 
>>>>> some adverse bleeding effect that kept me from taking it.  In 2010 had a 
>>>>> major stroke, but doing fine now.  Their only reasoning is I have 
>>>>> cavernous malformations in my brain.  Do you think this is any indication 
>>>>> of the fact that I pride myself on being a little wacko???    Wanted to 
>>>>> share how my numbers have plummeted:
>>>>> 
>>>>> March 2014 - 23.5 Int'l. Scale BCR/ABL
>>>>> April 2014 -    9.0 Int'l Scale WITHOUT any meds
>>>>> May 2014 -     5.85 on bosulif 100 mg for only 30 days
>>>>> June 2014 -    3.7, 60 days on bosulif
>>>>> Oct. 2014 -    .11%
>>>>> Nov. 2014    .04%, achieved MMR - hooray!!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please continue praying that I have no bleeding side effects from 100 mg. 
>>>>>  They keep encouraging me to take 200 mg, but I say why rock the boat 
>>>>> when this is working just fine?  I am a rare bird, so don't try to copy 
>>>>> what I do, anyone.....(about meds)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Y'all are always in my prayers.  I thank God for being able to know you 
>>>>> and have the privilege of calling all of you my friends.  Greenie and I 
>>>>> met a few months ago, and it was wonderful!  Try to enjoy every day as if 
>>>>> it were your last, because we never know when He'll call us home!  Just 
>>>>> lost two good friends, and know they are in a better place.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Love and 18's,
>>>>> Susan F. Zimmerman
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Richard H <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Thu, Nov 13, 2014 11:45 pm
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] newly diagnosed
>>>>> 
>>>>> Safe Travels my Friend.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard H.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 11:16:26 PM UTC-6, wa2yyx wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Marcie,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We are all captains of our own ships because we steer our own ships in a 
>>>>>> positive direction. Do you remember me saying that Leukemia is not only 
>>>>>> a disease of one's body but their mind as well. It is how you handle 
>>>>>> yourself that makes a big difference. If someone goes around with a 
>>>>>> terrible attitude then that is what they will get. If someone goes 
>>>>>> around with a good attitude then that is what they will have.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anyway, I have an appointment at Tampa Hospital for an annual exam for a 
>>>>>> kidney transplant. It's just that I have to be current with everything 
>>>>>> just in case it happens.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The hospital is more then four hours away so I have to get some sleep 
>>>>>> now.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 18's,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marty 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:53 PM, 'Marcie Goodman' via CMLHope 
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Marty,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What a lovely email to Sue. We are traveling together and I feel like 
>>>>>>> you are the Captain of our ship!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thinking about you and keeping you in my prayers 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Love and 18s,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Marcie
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Oh yes Sue, family. Well you know what they say? You can pick your 
>>>>>>>> friends but your family is here to stay good or bad. No matter what 
>>>>>>>> you can't change them.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As my father used to say, "never argue with a moron, fool, idiot or 
>>>>>>>> liar or someone that won't listen to what you have to say because no 
>>>>>>>> matter what you try to tell them they will never change. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> But your focus shouldn't be on them but people that are willing        
>>>>>>>>       to help you. That is what this site is all about as you can see.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> When you travel on your journey all of us will be traveling along with 
>>>>>>>> you. I really mean that, and you will see that your not alone but with 
>>>>>>>> some very nice people that will be supporting you along.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 18's,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:25 PM, smgedit <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> First off, I love your terminology! (I'm a writer and editor by 
>>>>>>>>> trade). Secondly, thanks for your support. I'm limiting who knows and 
>>>>>>>>> who doesn't know what is going on for now but unfortunately one of 
>>>>>>>>> the ignorant statements was by a family member. Oh well. I'm happy to 
>>>>>>>>> have found this site and to be meeting nice people like you on it.    
>>>>>>>>> Sue
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sue,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I read your post and just wanted to make some comments. Personally I 
>>>>>>>>>> think that your hanging around with some people that I would 
>>>>>>>>>> classify as Anal Orifices. And I only say that to be polite. Or even 
>>>>>>>>>> more possible they suffer from Rectal Cranial Inversion (their head 
>>>>>>>>>> is up their Azz.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I have to tell you that if one of them had CML or any other type of 
>>>>>>>>>> cancer then they would certainly have a different attitude.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I hate to say this but sometimes you should keep some things to 
>>>>>>>>>> yourself because of people like that. The less they know about you 
>>>>>>>>>> then the better it will be for you.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, now that is off my chest let me go into something more 
>>>>>>>>>> important. First, you have come to right place. All of those that 
>>>>>>>>>> are here are very compassionate and really care about each other. 
>>>>>>>>>> They have already gone through this and will be very happy to help 
>>>>>>>>>> you out with any questions and anything else they can and will help 
>>>>>>>>>> you with this.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> CML is not what it used to be because it is not a "death sentence"  
>>>>>>>>>> anymore. There have been so many improvements in it's treatment, not 
>>>>>>>>>> like in my day. I don't know what you may know about me but I am 
>>>>>>>>>> here to help you out in any way that I can.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> If you have read any of my posts you will see what I mean. Remember 
>>>>>>>>>> any time that you would like to post anything please feel free to do 
>>>>>>>>>> so. I would like to welcome you to this site.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sue, whenever I end any of my posts I end it with two numbers 18 
>>>>>>>>>> which is the symbol for life.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 18's to you Sue.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:23 AM, smgedit <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I was diagnosed with CML a little over a month ago and had a bone 
>>>>>>>>>>> marrow biopsy and started taking Gleevec last week.  I'm trying to 
>>>>>>>>>>> learn as much as I can about CML and my oncologist is great about 
>>>>>>>>>>> giving detailed explanations and answering questions. But I was 
>>>>>>>>>>> wondering if anyone else ever got what I consider a strange 
>>>>>>>>>>> reaction from others about my news. In the past week, I've had 
>>>>>>>>>>> people say the following things to me which upset me a lot.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> "So what's the big deal? So you have to take a pill...I have to 
>>>>>>>>>>> take this antibiotic for my tooth infection this week too."
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> "There is so a cure for leukemia. Plenty of people are cancer free. 
>>>>>>>>>>> You don't know what you are talking about."
>>>>>>>>>>> (This after explaining about the drugs and "response," vs. 
>>>>>>>>>>> "remission." etc.)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> "Well I hope you have a speedy recovery. Good luck."
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I know I can't put my energy into dealing with this right now but 
>>>>>>>>>>> it is weighing on my mind anyway. It made me happy to find this 
>>>>>>>>>>> group online where I know people can at least "get" it and where 
>>>>>>>>>>> some of you have been living with CML for quite a while.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, that's my first post. Nice to meet you.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sue
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