Dear Jeannie,

Good news is you probably will not get them if you don't have them already..We 
uptake the drugs and they affect each of us so differently....We are blessed to 
tolerate it as well as we both do. May you have a blessed holiday..


Happy weekend to all..and to anyone living near buffalo....our hearts go out to 
you...8 ft of snow...beyond my comprehension!!
Beth



-----Original Message-----
From: icandoallttc via CMLHope <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Nov 21, 2014 10:00 am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Beth sprycel ?



Thanks Beth 
This helps a lot. I take tramodol for pain and they have put it into controlled 
drug status.  Don't know why. 
Imitrix works well but makes you feel weird. 
I am trying to cut down on sprycel.  I've been I remission for a while now. 
Just recently my platelets started rising. That has always been my problem. 
I've had to have my blood cleansed a few times because if this. 
Platelets and WBC will just start going way up. 
Glad you are managing so well. I have no muscle problems as of yet. 
Blessings and thanks
Jeanie


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 20, 2014, at 11:37 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope <[email protected]> 
wrote:




Yes Jeannie. I used to go every two weeks, then once a month, now it's once 
every 2-3 months. I will go every few weeks while off. Don't plan on being off 
long term...but enough time to clear up some of these side effects and build 
some physical strength/ muscle back. Then return and try to maintain my 
physical self. I wish you could have some respite from the head aches. Jaw 
pain..Have you been in remission for a while? They told me to pre-medicate so 
minutes before taking sprycel with a pain med, t so I would not get such bad 
headaches. I traded off between tramadol and imitrix. They did not want me to 
get chronic headaches- migraines...I wish I could help more. I know we are all 
so different. I am blessed to not have blood count issues. I am sure it is 
because I have never been able to tolerate more than 40% of any drug or 
less....Stay close. take care, Beth


-----Original Message-----
From: icandoallttc via CMLHope <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Nov 18, 2014 4:05 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Beth sprycel ?



Thanks Beth 
I have been thinking about going off for a while due to sore Ear  jaw. 
I have been on sprycel for 5 years now.  
Do you get your CBC while you are off to see how your counts are doing?
Thanks so much. 
Jeanie


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On Nov 18, 2014, at 4:55 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope <[email protected]> 
wrote:




HI Jeannie,


Yep, when I take time off, when I feel too toxic, I just go off for a brief 
period, doctor supervised, and then go back on. I usually have no withdrawal, 
but I am careful to not stay off too long or I will get the uptake side effects 
returning to the medication. For me, that's migraines with sprycel uptake...I 
am in complete remission from Dr. Druker's lab....a first, so am very blessed. 
Just navigating side effects, and the muscle issues...doing the best I can...


take good care...


Love, Beth


-----Original Message-----
From: icandoallttc via CMLHope <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Nov 18, 2014 3:53 pm
Subject: [CMLHope] Beth sprycel ?



Hi Beth 
Sorry you haven't been well.  Prayers to you and family. 
When you stop your sprycel do you just  quit?  If you do do you have withdrawal?
Just wondering. I thought you were never supposed to just quit a drug.
Let me know And thanks. 
Blessing
Jeanie

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On Nov 18, 2014, at 4:39 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope <[email protected]> 
wrote:



Dear Sue,


Sorry for the delay of this message. I had been feeling a bit under the 
weather. As many others have done, I want to welcome you to our family here  of 
CML'ers...we share a lot, care a lot and encourage each other through this 
journey. I think many of us have gotten weird responses from those we have 
shared with regarding our illnesses. Many times it takes  us educating them 
about exactly what this means..even then, it's hard because we all respond 
differently to the meds and thus, each have our own issues, side effects etc.. 
to contend with. 


I hope gleevec will work for you. It's nice to know there are now several other 
meds that are options..so remember that as you start this journey. Know we are 
here to share this journey with you. I am sorry you had some unsettling and 
upsetting reactions when you shared with others. Sometimes people just don't 
get it or are miss informed. 


My own sister- who is an oncologist..said...take a pill..it's like taking a 
vitamin everyday......so sometimes even the doctors, ( she is in research and 
not patient care so doesn't have the input from real people), have not a clue 
as to what we go through.


Hope you and others have a great week. I will try to write something to update 
folks before the holidays. in short. I am doing O.K. Taking a sprycel holiday 
for two weeks, then back on post Thanksgiving. Am finally getting to the bottom 
of muscle disease issues..will know before the year is out exactly what this is 
and what the treatment is. Happy about getting clarity..Long time in coming.


Love to all...


Warmest regards..18's Beth





-----Original Message-----
From: 'Susan Zimmerman' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Nov 18, 2014 2:09 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Great NEWS


Greenie, we're traveling to Florida to Treasure Island, arriving Saturday the 
22nd.  Only be there 4 days, then going to New Orleans for T-giving..  Keep 
that warmth going for us for just four days.....please!  It's 17 degrees here 
right now.  Just FYI


Susan



-----Original Message-----
From: Myvety2k via CMLHope <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Nov 18, 2014 11:06 am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Great NEWS



I'm getting out all of my ice fishing clothing, long john's, etc, it's 60 deg. 
here in Fort Myers, FL.  But then my daughter is visiting friends at the 
Wisconsin Dells and they live in Hawaii.  It's 12 deg. their.  It's going to 
get back up in the low 80's by Thursday here. They warm everyone.
 
greenie
 

In a message dated 11/18/2014 10:23:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[email protected] writes:
  
Great day I Florida. Glad everyone is good. 
  
Happy dance to all. 
  
Jeanie 

Sent from my iPhone
  

On Nov 18, 2014, at 9:04 AM, "'Susan Zimmerman' via CMLHope" 
<[email protected]>   wrote:


  
    
Thanks Marty and everyone for your     kind words.  I'm also gaining back 
energy daily.     


    
Hey there, as a wrestler that Marty claims for me, I'm wrestling for     all of 
YOU to steadily move forward in your own healings or remissions,     which 
means I am praying for you to our precious heavenly Father, who knows     your 
hearts.  Marty, we expect news soon of a kidney transplant     happening for 
you!!!  Meanwhile all of our wishes are for you to feel     well and have no 
problems with dialysis and energy.
    


    
Love and 18's,
    

    
Susan F. Zimmerman
    



    
-----Original     Message-----
From: Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope     <[email protected]>
Sent:     Mon, Nov 17, 2014 10:38 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Great NEWS

    
    
Susan,     


    
Are you sure that in your former life you weren't a boxer or wrestler?     You 
beat the crap out of CML! Good for you! We are all doing the "happy     dance" 
for you.
    


    
So now you really know the meaning of 18's.
    


    
Marty
    

    
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 12:18 AM, 'Susan Zimmerman'     via CMLHope 
<[email protected]>     wrote:
    
Hello All,       


      
Great e-mail to the new "Sue", Marty!!!  You are adorable and I       love you. 
 Welcome Sue from one to another....I have GREAT NEWS:
      
You guessed it, I am MMR!!!!!  My numbers are .04% after 8       months on 
lowest dose of bosulif.  YAY, doing the happy dance for all       He has done 
for me.  I went 7 yrs and 2 mos. without any medication       after being on 
gleevec 400 mg. for 2 yrs and 3 mos....had a brain       hemmorhage, then 
another, so stopped gleevec for 7 yrs.  Tried every       other one and had 
some adverse bleeding effect that kept me from taking       it.  In 2010 had a 
major stroke, but doing fine now.  Their only       reasoning is I have 
cavernous malformations in my brain.  Do you       think this is any indication 
of the fact that I pride myself on being a       little wacko???    Wanted to 
share how my numbers have       plummeted:
      


      
March 2014 - 23.5 Int'l. Scale BCR/ABL
      
April 2014 -    9.0 Int'l Scale WITHOUT any meds
      
May 2014 -     5.85 on bosulif 100 mg for only 30 days
      
June 2014 -    3.7, 60 days on bosulif
      
Oct. 2014 -    .11%
      
Nov. 2014    .04%, achieved MMR - hooray!!!
      

      
Please continue praying that I have no bleeding       side effects from 100 mg. 
 They keep encouraging me to take 200 mg,       but I say why rock the boat 
when this is working just fine?  I am a       rare bird, so don't try to copy 
what I do, anyone.....(about meds)
      


      
Y'all are always in my prayers.  I thank God       for being able to know you 
and have the privilege of calling all of you my       friends.  Greenie and I 
met a few months ago, and it was       wonderful!  Try to enjoy every day as if 
it were your last, because       we never know when He'll call us home!  Just 
lost two good friends,       and know they are in a better place.
      


      
Love and 18's,
      
Susan F. Zimmerman
      



      
-----Original       Message-----
From: Richard H <[email protected]>
To:       cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent:       Thu, Nov 13, 2014 11:45 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] newly       diagnosed

      
      
      
Safe Travels my Friend.
      


      
Richard H.

On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 11:16:26 PM UTC-6,       wa2yyx wrote:
      
        
Hi Marcie,         


        
We are all captains of our own ships because we steer our own ships         in 
a positive direction. Do you remember me saying that Leukemia is not         
only a disease of one's body but their mind as well. It is how you         
handle yourself that makes a big difference. If someone goes around with        
 a terrible attitude then that is what they will get. If someone goes         
around with a good attitude then that is what they will have.
        


        
Anyway, I have an appointment at Tampa Hospital for an annual exam         for 
a kidney transplant. It's just that I have to be current with         
everything just in case it happens.
        


        
The hospital is more then four hours away so I have to get some         sleep 
now.
        


        
18's,
        


        
Marty 
        

        
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:53 PM, 'Marcie Goodman'         via CMLHope 
<[email protected]>         wrote:
        
          
          
Marty,
          


          
What a lovely email to Sue. We are traveling together and I feel           like 
you are the Captain of our ship!
          


          
Thinking about you and keeping you in my prayers 
          


          
Love and 18s,
          


          
Marcie
          

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On Nov 12, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Marty Gartenberg           <[email protected]> 
wrote:


          
            
            
Oh yes Sue, family. Well you know what they say? You             can pick your 
friends but your family is here to stay good or bad.             No matter what 
you can't change them.             


            
As my father used to say, "never argue with a moron, fool,             idiot or 
liar or someone that won't listen to what you have to say             because 
no matter what you try to tell them they will never             change. 
            


            
But your focus shouldn't be on them but people that are willing             to 
help you. That is what this site is all about as you can             see.
            


            
When you travel on your journey all of us will be traveling             along 
with you. I really mean that, and you will see that your not             alone 
but with some very nice people that will be supporting you             along.
            


            
18's,
            


            
Marty
            

            
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:25 PM, smgedit             <[email protected]> wrote:
            
              
              
Hi,
              
First off, I love your terminology! (I'm a writer and editor               by 
trade). Secondly, thanks for your support. I'm limiting who               knows 
and who doesn't know what is going on for now but               unfortunately 
one of the ignorant statements was by a family               member. Oh well. 
I'm happy to have found this site and to be               meeting nice people 
like you on it.    Sue
              


              
                
Hi Sue,                 


                
I read your post and just wanted to make some comments.                 
Personally I think that your hanging around with some people                 
that I would classify as Anal Orifices. And I only say that to                 
be polite. Or even more possible they suffer from Rectal Cranial                
 Inversion (their head is up their Azz.
                


                
I have to tell you that if one of them had CML or any other                 
type of cancer then they would certainly have a different                 
attitude.
                


                
I hate to say this but sometimes you should keep some                 things to 
yourself because of people like that. The less they                 know about 
you then the better it will be for you.
                


                
Anyway, now that is off my chest let me go into something                 more 
important. First, you have come to right place. All of                 those 
that are here are very compassionate and really care about                 each 
other. They have already gone through this and will be very                 
happy to help you out with any questions and anything else they                 
can and will help you with this.
                


                
CML is not what it used to be because it is not a "death                 
sentence"  anymore. There have been so many improvements in                 
it's treatment, not like in my day. I don't know what you may                 
know about me but I am here to help you out in any way that I                 
can.
                


                
If you have read any of my posts you will see what I mean.                 
Remember any time that you would like to post anything please                 
feel free to do so. I would like to welcome you to this                 site.
                


                
Sue, whenever I end any of my posts I end it with two                 numbers 
18 which is the symbol for life.
                


                
18's to you Sue.
                


                
Marty
                

                
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:23 AM,                 smgedit <[email protected]>  
               wrote:
                
                  
                  
I was diagnosed with CML a little over a month ago and                   had a 
bone marrow biopsy and started taking Gleevec last                   week.  I'm 
trying to learn as much as I can about CML and                   my oncologist 
is great about giving detailed explanations and                   answering 
questions. But I was wondering if anyone else ever                   got what I 
consider a strange reaction from others about my                   news. In the 
past week, I've had people say the following                   things to me 
which upset me a lot.
                  


                  
"So what's the big deal? So you have to take a pill...I                   have 
to take this antibiotic for my tooth infection this week                   too."
                  


                  
"There is so a cure for leukemia. Plenty of people are                   cancer 
free. You don't know what you are talking about."
                  
(This after explaining about the drugs and "response,"                   vs. 
"remission." etc.)
                  


                  
"Well I hope you have a speedy recovery. Good luck."
                  


                  
I know I can't put my energy into dealing with this right                   now 
but it is weighing on my mind anyway. It made me happy to                   
find this group online where I know people can at least "get"                   
it and where some of you have been living with CML for quite a                  
 while.
                  


                  
Anyway, that's my first post. Nice to meet you.
                  


                  
Sue
                  
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