great news that you are getting a breather from the meds. I hope your 
counts stay low enough you get a few MONTHS instead of weeks.  We are 
praying for that.

Richard H.

On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 7:27:26 PM UTC-6, Beth wrote:
>
> Dear Susan, 
>
> Concerned to hear your news...I know you wanted to hear better..It's so 
> hard when we hit an unexpected bump in the road....when are you coming back 
> to see your doc? I am in town except for Dec. 12-19th...would love to meet 
> you this time. And Greenie....will be in Fort Myers so hopefully can see 
> you and your sweetie..and my other cml buddies who live down south...chemo 
> brain...forgive me!.
>
> I have gone off everything...my BCR was good enough to take some time to 
> cleanse my body...was just too sick....will go back on in a few 
> weeks...enjoying GRAPEFRUIT!!! for a couple of weeks!.
>
> Love to all and a happy and healthy Thanksgiving to each and everyone of 
> you...
>
> 18's  and love, Beth
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 'Susan Zimmerman' via CMLHope <[email protected] <javascript:>
> >
> To: cmlhope <[email protected] <javascript:>>
> Sent: Fri, Oct 30, 2015 8:26 am
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day
>
> Hi all, 
>
> My bcr/abl results were not as great as I hoped.  Last time I was 
> .012.....almost to zero.  This time I expected to be zero, but alas I am up 
> to .348.  So doc wants me to go to 300 mg bosulif, instead of 100 mg.  I am 
> compromising and will go to 200 so I don't have to stay in the bathroom all 
> day.  I was ready to get a local test next time and forego going to Chicago 
> every 3 months.  Now she wants to see me in one month after I up the dose. 
>  Ugh!  So thankful I do have a wonderful doc even if I do decide myself on 
> my dosage.  She does not put me down about it, and supports me in every 
> way. 
>
> Beth, keeping my fingers crossed for you and saying a prayer.  Marty, you 
> are so loved and hope your kidney stuff is getting better.  Your pics were 
> beautiful.   
>
> 18's and blessings,
> Susan Z
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marty Gartenberg <[email protected] <javascript:>>
> To: cmlhope <[email protected] <javascript:>>
> Sent: Thu, Oct 29, 2015 10:11 pm
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day
>
> Yes since everything has been going on I had leave my home in PA empty for 
> nearly two years, but let me tell you something about that crisp clean air 
> and simply beautiful colors of all of the trees that you can see for miles. 
> An example is route 97 which separates upstate NY from PA with the Delaware 
> river in between them. Route 97 goes from Port Jervis all the way down to 
> past Hancock NY, and is considered the most scenic road it the United 
> States. Right near Port Jervis there is route 97 winding like a snake on 
> the edge of the road and is about 1,000 feet above the Delaware River. 
>
> I have driven in that area and I wouldn't ever drive on it in the snow or 
> at night. If by chance your ever there and I am in PA it is only right 
> across the Robeling bridge which is actually a one lane wooden bridge only 
> allowing one way of traffic then once it stops then the other way.  
>
> I am wishing you well with your results.
>
> Don't forget to let everyone know.
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 6:31 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope <
> [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Hi all, 
>>
>> Just saying hi! Wanted you all to know that I am thinking of you and 
>> sending everyone a big hug and happy fall wishes... I know some of you 
>> southern folks..will enjoy your 90 degree Florida temperatures coming 
>> down...but us up north are enjoying the beauty of fall..it's cold today, 
>> but should be back up in the 60's by Sunday....Indian summer.....I just 
>> love it...
>>
>> did BCR on Monday..waiting for results..then will decide plan for next 
>> few months...
>>
>> love, hugs and 18's to all, 
>>
>>
>> Beth
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <[email protected] <javascript:>>
>> To: cmlhope <[email protected] <javascript:>>
>> Sent: Sun, Oct 11, 2015 1:07 pm
>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day
>>
>> Hi Beth 
>> I can never go off the meds either. My counts will shoot up fast. 
>> Good luck
>> ❤️
>>
>> My Motto: Faith and Pills 
>> Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s  
>> Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna  9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib January 2015
>> Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>>
>> On Oct 11, 2015, at 1:43 AM, bkbarney via CMLHope <
>> [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Jeannie, Richard, Susan, Marty, et al...thanks very much for 
>> responding to my question. I am scared, but want to try something to help 
>> myself. We will see what Dr.Druker has to say. In the mean time, what I do 
>> know, having been off of sprycel for months at a time to deal with major 
>> surgeries several times, is that I always come out of remission, and 
>> quickly. I don't hold without the sprycel. Usually the cells are showing at 
>> very low numbers, but it means that without the agent that keeps them in 
>> check, cancer grows. I wish this were not so. And I know it's not for some 
>> lucky folks. Maybe with time, this will change for me. For now I am 
>> developing a plan..will keep you all posted.  
>>
>> love and 18's Beth
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Marty Gartenberg <[email protected] <javascript:>>
>> To: cmlhope <[email protected] <javascript:>>
>> Sent: Thu, Oct 8, 2015 5:56 am
>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day
>>
>> Hi Jeannie, Beth, Richard as well as everyone on this site, 
>>
>> I have a friend (not had a friend, and still have this friend) who had 
>> CML a little while after I had my transplant. At the time there were no 
>> TKI's but there were only two things available. One was a bone marrow 
>> transplant which was in it's infancy at the time and the other was Alpha 
>> interferon but on an early study basis which actually was a blind study. 
>> Depending on if those in this study would be receiving this Alpha 
>> Interferon or a placebo.
>>
>> Even before my friend I had to chose the Interferon or the placebo in 
>> this blind study. I spoke with a lot of oncologists about what to do. 
>> However there were no concise answers because on one hand there was 
>> something that was still in a blind study and who would know if that would 
>> even be given to this patient or would the BMT be the way to go?
>>
>> However, since there were no matching donors, but one, his brother who 
>> refused, and I could never understand that, but since there were no other 
>> choices he had no other choice but to try that blind study. Well he was 
>> lucky enough to be accepted. And I have to tell you that he really suffered 
>> some really bad side effects for years afterwards. 
>>
>> Eventually they were unable to detect any more CML, but he still refused 
>> to go off of the Alpha Interferon and I suppose this was a crutch in his 
>> life so he still remained on it for many years. So I guess that he finally 
>> decided to go off of it. Once that happened his life took a dramatic turn. 
>> No more side effects and no more CML, and he is still alive and doing 
>> remarkably well today. 
>>
>> As far as me, well my only choice was the BMT because of two reasons. 
>> Since my white blood counts were at the time over 486,000 and doubtful that 
>> I would survive, but basically the same thing with the BMT but at least I 
>> had my sister as a donor who just happened to be a perfect HLA match. So I 
>> tried the BMT, and it worked.
>>
>> But yet there is still more to this story and some of you might remember 
>> Zavie Miller and all three of us used to get together, and called ourselves 
>> The Three Musketeers. This was well after Zavie got to know Dr. Druker and 
>> he was started on STI-571 which when approved by the FDA turned into 
>> Gleevec. 
>>
>> So after that we all turned into The Three Musketeers. All of this is 
>> ancient   history but my point is that whether to go off or continue on the 
>> TKI's because you may be actually "cured" of CML but you may still hold the 
>> touch of the crutch. So you see that there are different strokes for 
>> different people.
>>
>> Fortunately I don't have to make the choice because I already did and 
>> believe me I really did suffer, but in the end it was worth it.
>>
>> Now knowing what I would do if my circumstances were different I think 
>> that I would be off these TKI's and live my life, and if something happens 
>> then you will have to deal with it, and you will. Remember a crutch is a 
>> terrible thing to have.
>>
>> I spend a lot of time trying to help, and your all very special people to 
>> me as I am to you.
>>
>> Those are my words of wisdom and please never forget what 18's stands 
>> for. It is life yours and mine!
>>
>> 18's
>>
>> Marty  
>>
>>
>> i 
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Richard H <[email protected] 
>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just a quick glimpse about a med break.  The end of March when I went to 
>>> the hospital with Vertigo, The short break I had on medicine did wonders 
>>> for me.  Found some I shouldn't have been taking, stopped some all 
>>> together.  I have felt so much better that I would do it again under total 
>>> control.  Worried? Yes, but I realized afterwards it should have been done 
>>> earlier.
>>>
>>> Richard H.  
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 4:27:30 PM UTC-5, Beth wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HI Jeannie and all, ...I am due for BCR abl testing so should get it in 
>>>> the next two weeks, results two weeks later...so I will update when I know 
>>>> more...Had a consult today at the Block Center here in Illinois.People 
>>>> tend 
>>>> to love him or hate him... I really like him. He thinks all my issues are 
>>>> sprycel related. Thinks I should go off everything and have drug holiday 
>>>> to 
>>>> give my autoimmune system a rest....steroids briefly to try and lower cpk 
>>>> so I can move better without such a severe boomerang effect.  Back issues 
>>>> are no worse. That's good news from my end....since there have been 
>>>> several 
>>>> of my fellow warriors here who have lost there remissions spontaneously 
>>>> after years of successful treatment with their TKI's.  I am scared to go 
>>>> off, unless I have to ...ie. like I did for past surgeries....however, I 
>>>> am 
>>>> thinking about it...perhaps I am just too toxic, and time off would help 
>>>> me 
>>>> to rebuild and repair, and tolerate better the TKI"s when I re-uptake in 
>>>> the future......so I am sitting with this decision..Not sure what I am 
>>>> going to do...except pray, and listen to other's words of wisdom....I know 
>>>> if I ask Dr. Druker, he would be fine with my taking a drug holiday..but I 
>>>> emailed anyway......thoughts from my friends here????
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Love and 18;s, Beth
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
>>>> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Wed, Oct 7, 2015 12:59 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day
>>>>
>>>> Hi Beth and how are you?? 
>>>> Would love to have an update on all.  Thanks!! ❤️❤️
>>>>
>>>> My Motto: Faith and Pills 
>>>> Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s  
>>>> Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
>>>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>>>> Started Tasigna  9/2009
>>>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>>>> Started Ponatinib January 2015
>>>> Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:35 AM, bkbarney via CMLHope <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Richard, 
>>>> Sounds like good news all the way around. Hope your counts continue to 
>>>> hold well and the November visit to the onc is a positive one! Your wife 
>>>> is 
>>>> healing well..slow and steady. Thanks for sharing the good news....Keeping 
>>>> you both in my thoughts and prayers. Beth
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
>>>> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Wed, Oct 7, 2015 9:26 am
>>>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day
>>>>
>>>> Hi Richard and happy you are better.  I hope your wife will be home 
>>>> soon. 
>>>> Prayers always. 
>>>>
>>>> My Motto: Faith and Pills 
>>>> Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s  
>>>> Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
>>>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>>>> Started Tasigna  9/2009
>>>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>>>> Started Ponatinib January 2015
>>>> Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 12:01 AM, Richard H <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> All is good at this house.  Saw Kidney Dr. and my tests have improved 
>>>> the last 3 times.  Took my CBC and I am keeping my Hem. is holding at 10.  
>>>> I hope it stays there until the end of Nov. when I visit my ONC.  
>>>>
>>>> My wife is improving, and will see the Dr. Oct. 21st to see if she can 
>>>> start putting weight on the right side.  Shoulder seems to be healing 
>>>> nicely.  She has the healing knot on the shoulder and is feeding herself 
>>>> with her right hand and is raising the upper arm to almost shoulder height 
>>>> without pain.  We are hoping she can come home in Nov. when she can get 
>>>> out 
>>>> of the wheel chair and up and down without help.  Due to heart surgery and 
>>>> a pacemaker all I can due is call for help if she has a problem.
>>>>
>>>> 18's
>>>>
>>>> Richard H. 
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