Hi Everyone,

It has been since February 24th that I had my kidney transplant as well as
many more health problems since. Now when I said my kidney transplant this
is on the positive side of anything that I had to go through, but I simply
try not to complain.

I have been feeling quite well lately so I am really starting to get back
to my life as it was before all of this.

Now it is time that I wish all of you to have a most healthy and happy
holiday season.

And I will tell all of you no matter what you may be going through you are
living breathing wonderful people and I truly admire each and everyone for
fighting your battles. I know because I have already had my battles with
CML and I never let go no matter what I had to go through.

Please let me repeat this because it is very important to me because of all
of you.
"Now it is time that I wish all of you to have a most healthy and happy
holiday season"

And by now all of you know the meaning of those 18's I wish for all of you.

!8's (LIFE)

Marty

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:13 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope <
[email protected]> wrote:

> thanks Richard.... And happy Thanksgiving Day to everyone tomorrow.. I
> hope everyone here finds themselves in a place that is peaceful and
> lifegiving this holiday. I wish you all a feel good kind of day in every
> way....
>
> off sprycel for 2.5 weeks thus far.. initially felt a lot better..but last
> couple of days..autoimmune...whatever is creeping in with that deep fatigue
> in my muscles etc....doing detox..thanks for the advice all..I am going to
> take some supplements I cannot take with sprycel in the hopes of cleaning
> and calming my system...
>
> will keep you all posted..thinking of each and everyone here....
>
> group hug. Beth.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard H <[email protected]>
> To: CMLHope <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thu, Nov 19, 2015 10:47 pm
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day
>
> great news that you are getting a breather from the meds. I hope your
> counts stay low enough you get a few MONTHS instead of weeks.  We are
> praying for that.
>
> Richard H.
>
> On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 7:27:26 PM UTC-6, Beth wrote:
>>
>> Dear Susan,
>>
>> Concerned to hear your news...I know you wanted to hear better..It's so
>> hard when we hit an unexpected bump in the road....when are you coming back
>> to see your doc? I am in town except for Dec. 12-19th...would love to meet
>> you this time. And Greenie....will be in Fort Myers so hopefully can see
>> you and your sweetie..and my other cml buddies who live down south...chemo
>> brain...forgive me!.
>>
>> I have gone off everything...my BCR was good enough to take some time to
>> cleanse my body...was just too sick....will go back on in a few
>> weeks...enjoying GRAPEFRUIT!!! for a couple of weeks!.
>>
>> Love to all and a happy and healthy Thanksgiving to each and everyone of
>> you...
>>
>> 18's  and love, Beth
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 'Susan Zimmerman' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
>> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Fri, Oct 30, 2015 8:26 am
>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> My bcr/abl results were not as great as I hoped.  Last time I was
>> .012.....almost to zero.  This time I expected to be zero, but alas I am up
>> to .348.  So doc wants me to go to 300 mg bosulif, instead of 100 mg.  I am
>> compromising and will go to 200 so I don't have to stay in the bathroom all
>> day.  I was ready to get a local test next time and forego going to Chicago
>> every 3 months.  Now she wants to see me in one month after I up the dose.
>> Ugh!  So thankful I do have a wonderful doc even if I do decide myself on
>> my dosage.  She does not put me down about it, and supports me in every
>> way.
>>
>> Beth, keeping my fingers crossed for you and saying a prayer.  Marty, you
>> are so loved and hope your kidney stuff is getting better.  Your pics were
>> beautiful.
>>
>> 18's and blessings,
>> Susan Z
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]>
>> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thu, Oct 29, 2015 10:11 pm
>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day
>>
>> Yes since everything has been going on I had leave my home in PA empty
>> for nearly two years, but let me tell you something about that crisp clean
>> air and simply beautiful colors of all of the trees that you can see for
>> miles. An example is route 97 which separates upstate NY from PA with the
>> Delaware river in between them. Route 97 goes from Port Jervis all the way
>> down to past Hancock NY, and is considered the most scenic road it the
>> United States. Right near Port Jervis there is route 97 winding like a
>> snake on the edge of the road and is about 1,000 feet above the Delaware
>> River.
>>
>> I have driven in that area and I wouldn't ever drive on it in the snow or
>> at night. If by chance your ever there and I am in PA it is only right
>> across the Robeling bridge which is actually a one lane wooden bridge only
>> allowing one way of traffic then once it stops then the other way.
>>
>> I am wishing you well with your results.
>>
>> Don't forget to let everyone know.
>>
>> 18's,
>>
>> Marty
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 6:31 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Just saying hi! Wanted you all to know that I am thinking of you and
>>> sending everyone a big hug and happy fall wishes... I know some of you
>>> southern folks..will enjoy your 90 degree Florida temperatures coming
>>> down...but us up north are enjoying the beauty of fall..it's cold today,
>>> but should be back up in the 60's by Sunday....Indian summer.....I just
>>> love it...
>>>
>>> did BCR on Monday..waiting for results..then will decide plan for next
>>> few months...
>>>
>>> love, hugs and 18's to all,
>>>
>>>
>>> Beth
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
>>> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Sun, Oct 11, 2015 1:07 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day
>>>
>>> Hi Beth
>>> I can never go off the meds either. My counts will shoot up fast.
>>> Good luck
>>> ❤️
>>>
>>> My Motto: Faith and Pills
>>> Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s
>>> Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
>>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>>> Started Tasigna  9/2009
>>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>>> Started Ponatinib January 2015
>>> Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>>>
>>> On Oct 11, 2015, at 1:43 AM, bkbarney via CMLHope <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Jeannie, Richard, Susan, Marty, et al...thanks very much for
>>> responding to my question. I am scared, but want to try something to help
>>> myself. We will see what Dr.Druker has to say. In the mean time, what I do
>>> know, having been off of sprycel for months at a time to deal with major
>>> surgeries several times, is that I always come out of remission, and
>>> quickly. I don't hold without the sprycel. Usually the cells are showing at
>>> very low numbers, but it means that without the agent that keeps them in
>>> check, cancer grows. I wish this were not so. And I know it's not for some
>>> lucky folks. Maybe with time, this will change for me. For now I am
>>> developing a plan..will keep you all posted.
>>>
>>> love and 18's Beth
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]>
>>> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thu, Oct 8, 2015 5:56 am
>>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day
>>>
>>> Hi Jeannie, Beth, Richard as well as everyone on this site,
>>>
>>> I have a friend (not had a friend, and still have this friend) who had
>>> CML a little while after I had my transplant. At the time there were no
>>> TKI's but there were only two things available. One was a bone marrow
>>> transplant which was in it's infancy at the time and the other was Alpha
>>> interferon but on an early study basis which actually was a blind study.
>>> Depending on if those in this study would be receiving this Alpha
>>> Interferon or a placebo.
>>>
>>> Even before my friend I had to chose the Interferon or the placebo in
>>> this blind study. I spoke with a lot of oncologists about what to do.
>>> However there were no concise answers because on one hand there was
>>> something that was still in a blind study and who would know if that would
>>> even be given to this patient or would the BMT be the way to go?
>>>
>>> However, since there were no matching donors, but one, his brother who
>>> refused, and I could never understand that, but since there were no other
>>> choices he had no other choice but to try that blind study. Well he was
>>> lucky enough to be accepted. And I have to tell you that he really suffered
>>> some really bad side effects for years afterwards.
>>>
>>> Eventually they were unable to detect any more CML, but he still refused
>>> to go off of the Alpha Interferon and I suppose this was a crutch in his
>>> life so he still remained on it for many years. So I guess that he finally
>>> decided to go off of it. Once that happened his life took a dramatic turn.
>>> No more side effects and no more CML, and he is still alive and doing
>>> remarkably well today.
>>>
>>> As far as me, well my only choice was the BMT because of two reasons.
>>> Since my white blood counts were at the time over 486,000 and doubtful that
>>> I would survive, but basically the same thing with the BMT but at least I
>>> had my sister as a donor who just happened to be a perfect HLA match. So I
>>> tried the BMT, and it worked.
>>>
>>> But yet there is still more to this story and some of you might remember
>>> Zavie Miller and all three of us used to get together, and called ourselves
>>> The Three Musketeers. This was well after Zavie got to know Dr. Druker and
>>> he was started on STI-571 which when approved by the FDA turned into
>>> Gleevec.
>>>
>>> So after that we all turned into The Three Musketeers. All of this is
>>> ancient   history but my point is that whether to go off or continue on the
>>> TKI's because you may be actually "cured" of CML but you may still hold the
>>> touch of the crutch. So you see that there are different strokes for
>>> different people.
>>>
>>> Fortunately I don't have to make the choice because I already did and
>>> believe me I really did suffer, but in the end it was worth it.
>>>
>>> Now knowing what I would do if my circumstances were different I think
>>> that I would be off these TKI's and live my life, and if something happens
>>> then you will have to deal with it, and you will. Remember a crutch is a
>>> terrible thing to have.
>>>
>>> I spend a lot of time trying to help, and your all very special people
>>> to me as I am to you.
>>>
>>> Those are my words of wisdom and please never forget what 18's stands
>>> for. It is life yours and mine!
>>>
>>> 18's
>>>
>>> Marty
>>>
>>>
>>> i
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Richard H <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just a quick glimpse about a med break.  The end of March when I went
>>>> to the hospital with Vertigo, The short break I had on medicine did wonders
>>>> for me.  Found some I shouldn't have been taking, stopped some all
>>>> together.  I have felt so much better that I would do it again under total
>>>> control.  Worried? Yes, but I realized afterwards it should have been done
>>>> earlier.
>>>>
>>>> Richard H.
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 4:27:30 PM UTC-5, Beth wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> HI Jeannie and all, ...I am due for BCR abl testing so should get it
>>>>> in the next two weeks, results two weeks later...so I will update when I
>>>>> know more...Had a consult today at the Block Center here in 
>>>>> Illinois.People
>>>>> tend to love him or hate him... I really like him. He thinks all my issues
>>>>> are sprycel related. Thinks I should go off everything and have drug
>>>>> holiday to give my autoimmune system a rest....steroids briefly to try and
>>>>> lower cpk so I can move better without such a severe boomerang effect.
>>>>> Back issues are no worse. That's good news from my end....since there have
>>>>> been several of my fellow warriors here who have lost there remissions
>>>>> spontaneously after years of successful treatment with their TKI's.  I am
>>>>> scared to go off, unless I have to ...ie. like I did for past
>>>>> surgeries....however, I am thinking about it...perhaps I am just too 
>>>>> toxic,
>>>>> and time off would help me to rebuild and repair, and tolerate better the
>>>>> TKI"s when I re-uptake in the future......so I am sitting with this
>>>>> decision..Not sure what I am going to do...except pray, and listen to
>>>>> other's words of wisdom....I know if I ask Dr. Druker, he would be fine
>>>>> with my taking a drug holiday..but I emailed anyway......thoughts from my
>>>>> friends here????
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Love and 18;s, Beth
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Wed, Oct 7, 2015 12:59 pm
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Beth and how are you??
>>>>> Would love to have an update on all.  Thanks!! ❤️❤️
>>>>>
>>>>> My Motto: Faith and Pills
>>>>> Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s
>>>>> Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
>>>>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>>>>> Started Tasigna  9/2009
>>>>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>>>>> Started Ponatinib January 2015
>>>>> Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:35 AM, bkbarney via CMLHope <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Richard,
>>>>> Sounds like good news all the way around. Hope your counts continue to
>>>>> hold well and the November visit to the onc is a positive one! Your wife 
>>>>> is
>>>>> healing well..slow and steady. Thanks for sharing the good news....Keeping
>>>>> you both in my thoughts and prayers. Beth
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Wed, Oct 7, 2015 9:26 am
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Richard and happy you are better.  I hope your wife will be home
>>>>> soon.
>>>>> Prayers always.
>>>>>
>>>>> My Motto: Faith and Pills
>>>>> Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s
>>>>> Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
>>>>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>>>>> Started Tasigna  9/2009
>>>>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>>>>> Started Ponatinib January 2015
>>>>> Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 12:01 AM, Richard H <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> All is good at this house.  Saw Kidney Dr. and my tests have improved
>>>>> the last 3 times.  Took my CBC and I am keeping my Hem. is holding at 10.
>>>>> I hope it stays there until the end of Nov. when I visit my ONC.
>>>>>
>>>>> My wife is improving, and will see the Dr. Oct. 21st to see if she can
>>>>> start putting weight on the right side.  Shoulder seems to be healing
>>>>> nicely.  She has the healing knot on the shoulder and is feeding herself
>>>>> with her right hand and is raising the upper arm to almost shoulder height
>>>>> without pain.  We are hoping she can come home in Nov. when she can get 
>>>>> out
>>>>> of the wheel chair and up and down without help.  Due to heart surgery and
>>>>> a pacemaker all I can due is call for help if she has a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> 18's
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard H.
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