Happy Thanksgiving Beth and all.  
I worry about you being off Sprycel but I know you have to do what you feel is 
best. 
I got sick the first of the year with bad jaw ache and just felt terrible.  I 
took it upon myself to go off sprycel and by the time I got back to my doctor I 
had accelerated cml.  he tested for mutation and I had one. That is when he put 
me in ponatinib.   
I am doing well but still have the Phillies in my blood.  
Keep a close check on your blood sweet Beth.  
Love❤️😇💋

My Motto: Faith and Pills
Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s 
Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
Started Gleevec 2/2004
Started Tasigna  9/2009
Started Sprycel 11/2009
Started Ponatinib January 2015
Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center

> On Nov 25, 2015, at 2:13 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> thanks Richard.... And happy Thanksgiving Day to everyone tomorrow.. I hope 
> everyone here finds themselves in a place that is peaceful and lifegiving 
> this holiday. I wish you all a feel good kind of day in every way....
> 
> off sprycel for 2.5 weeks thus far.. initially felt a lot better..but last 
> couple of days..autoimmune...whatever is creeping in with that deep fatigue 
> in my muscles etc....doing detox..thanks for the advice all..I am going to 
> take some supplements I cannot take with sprycel in the hopes of cleaning and 
> calming my system...
> 
> will keep you all posted..thinking of each and everyone here....
> 
> group hug. Beth.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard H <[email protected]>
> To: CMLHope <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thu, Nov 19, 2015 10:47 pm
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day
> 
> great news that you are getting a breather from the meds. I hope your counts 
> stay low enough you get a few MONTHS instead of weeks.  We are praying for 
> that.
> 
> Richard H.
> 
>> On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 7:27:26 PM UTC-6, Beth wrote:
>> Dear Susan,
>> 
>> Concerned to hear your news...I know you wanted to hear better..It's so hard 
>> when we hit an unexpected bump in the road....when are you coming back to 
>> see your doc? I am in town except for Dec. 12-19th...would love to meet you 
>> this time. And Greenie....will be in Fort Myers so hopefully can see you and 
>> your sweetie..and my other cml buddies who live down south...chemo 
>> brain...forgive me!.
>> 
>> I have gone off everything...my BCR was good enough to take some time to 
>> cleanse my body...was just too sick....will go back on in a few 
>> weeks...enjoying GRAPEFRUIT!!! for a couple of weeks!.
>> 
>> Love to all and a happy and healthy Thanksgiving to each and everyone of 
>> you...
>> 
>> 18's  and love, Beth
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 'Susan Zimmerman' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
>> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Fri, Oct 30, 2015 8:26 am
>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> My bcr/abl results were not as great as I hoped.  Last time I was 
>> .012.....almost to zero.  This time I expected to be zero, but alas I am up 
>> to .348.  So doc wants me to go to 300 mg bosulif, instead of 100 mg.  I am 
>> compromising and will go to 200 so I don't have to stay in the bathroom all 
>> day.  I was ready to get a local test next time and forego going to Chicago 
>> every 3 months.  Now she wants to see me in one month after I up the dose.  
>> Ugh!  So thankful I do have a wonderful doc even if I do decide myself on my 
>> dosage.  She does not put me down about it, and supports me in every way. 
>> 
>> Beth, keeping my fingers crossed for you and saying a prayer.  Marty, you 
>> are so loved and hope your kidney stuff is getting better.  Your pics were 
>> beautiful.   
>> 
>> 18's and blessings,
>> Susan Z
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]>
>> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thu, Oct 29, 2015 10:11 pm
>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day
>> 
>> Yes since everything has been going on I had leave my home in PA empty for 
>> nearly two years, but let me tell you something about that crisp clean air 
>> and simply beautiful colors of all of the trees that you can see for miles. 
>> An example is route 97 which separates upstate NY from PA with the Delaware 
>> river in between them. Route 97 goes from Port Jervis all the way down to 
>> past Hancock NY, and is considered the most scenic road it the United 
>> States. Right near Port Jervis there is route 97 winding like a snake on the 
>> edge of the road and is about 1,000 feet above the Delaware River.
>> 
>> I have driven in that area and I wouldn't ever drive on it in the snow or at 
>> night. If by chance your ever there and I am in PA it is only right across 
>> the Robeling bridge which is actually a one lane wooden bridge only allowing 
>> one way of traffic then once it stops then the other way.  
>> 
>> I am wishing you well with your results.
>> 
>> Don't forget to let everyone know.
>> 
>> 18's,
>> 
>> Marty
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 6:31 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Just saying hi! Wanted you all to know that I am thinking of you and 
>>> sending everyone a big hug and happy fall wishes... I know some of you 
>>> southern folks..will enjoy your 90 degree Florida temperatures coming 
>>> down...but us up north are enjoying the beauty of fall..it's cold today, 
>>> but should be back up in the 60's by Sunday....Indian summer.....I just 
>>> love it...
>>> 
>>> did BCR on Monday..waiting for results..then will decide plan for next few 
>>> months...
>>> 
>>> love, hugs and 18's to all, 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Beth
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
>>> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Sun, Oct 11, 2015 1:07 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day
>>> 
>>> Hi Beth 
>>> I can never go off the meds either. My counts will shoot up fast. 
>>> Good luck
>>> ❤️
>>> 
>>> My Motto: Faith and Pills
>>> Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s 
>>> Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
>>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>>> Started Tasigna  9/2009
>>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>>> Started Ponatinib January 2015
>>> Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2015, at 1:43 AM, bkbarney via CMLHope <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Jeannie, Richard, Susan, Marty, et al...thanks very much for 
>>> responding to my question. I am scared, but want to try something to help 
>>> myself. We will see what Dr.Druker has to say. In the mean time, what I do 
>>> know, having been off of sprycel for months at a time to deal with major 
>>> surgeries several times, is that I always come out of remission, and 
>>> quickly. I don't hold without the sprycel. Usually the cells are showing at 
>>> very low numbers, but it means that without the agent that keeps them in 
>>> check, cancer grows. I wish this were not so. And I know it's not for some 
>>> lucky folks. Maybe with time, this will change for me. For now I am 
>>> developing a plan..will keep you all posted. 
>>> 
>>> love and 18's Beth
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]>
>>> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thu, Oct 8, 2015 5:56 am
>>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day
>>> 
>>> Hi Jeannie, Beth, Richard as well as everyone on this site,
>>> 
>>> I have a friend (not had a friend, and still have this friend) who had CML 
>>> a little while after I had my transplant. At the time there were no TKI's 
>>> but there were only two things available. One was a bone marrow transplant 
>>> which was in it's infancy at the time and the other was Alpha interferon 
>>> but on an early study basis which actually was a blind study. Depending on 
>>> if those in this study would be receiving this Alpha Interferon or a 
>>> placebo.
>>> 
>>> Even before my friend I had to chose the Interferon or the placebo in this 
>>> blind study. I spoke with a lot of oncologists about what to do. However 
>>> there were no concise answers because on one hand there was something that 
>>> was still in a blind study and who would know if that would even be given 
>>> to this patient or would the BMT be the way to go?
>>> 
>>> However, since there were no matching donors, but one, his brother who 
>>> refused, and I could never understand that, but since there were no other 
>>> choices he had no other choice but to try that blind study. Well he was 
>>> lucky enough to be accepted. And I have to tell you that he really suffered 
>>> some really bad side effects for years afterwards. 
>>> 
>>> Eventually they were unable to detect any more CML, but he still refused to 
>>> go off of the Alpha Interferon and I suppose this was a crutch in his life 
>>> so he still remained on it for many years. So I guess that he finally 
>>> decided to go off of it. Once that happened his life took a dramatic turn. 
>>> No more side effects and no more CML, and he is still alive and doing 
>>> remarkably well today. 
>>> 
>>> As far as me, well my only choice was the BMT because of two reasons. Since 
>>> my white blood counts were at the time over 486,000 and doubtful that I 
>>> would survive, but basically the same thing with the BMT but at least I had 
>>> my sister as a donor who just happened to be a perfect HLA match. So I 
>>> tried the BMT, and it worked.
>>> 
>>> But yet there is still more to this story and some of you might remember 
>>> Zavie Miller and all three of us used to get together, and called ourselves 
>>> The Three Musketeers. This was well after Zavie got to know Dr. Druker and 
>>> he was started on STI-571 which when approved by the FDA turned into 
>>> Gleevec. 
>>> 
>>> So after that we all turned into The Three Musketeers. All of this is 
>>> ancient   history but my point is that whether to go off or continue on the 
>>> TKI's because you may be actually "cured" of CML but you may still hold the 
>>> touch of the crutch. So you see that there are different strokes for 
>>> different people.
>>> 
>>> Fortunately I don't have to make the choice because I already did and 
>>> believe me I really did suffer, but in the end it was worth it.
>>> 
>>> Now knowing what I would do if my circumstances were different I think that 
>>> I would be off these TKI's and live my life, and if something happens then 
>>> you will have to deal with it, and you will. Remember a crutch is a 
>>> terrible thing to have.
>>> 
>>> I spend a lot of time trying to help, and your all very special people to 
>>> me as I am to you.
>>> 
>>> Those are my words of wisdom and please never forget what 18's stands for. 
>>> It is life yours and mine!
>>> 
>>> 18's
>>> 
>>> Marty  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> i 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Richard H <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Just a quick glimpse about a med break.  The end of March when I went to 
>>>> the hospital with Vertigo, The short break I had on medicine did wonders 
>>>> for me.  Found some I shouldn't have been taking, stopped some all 
>>>> together.  I have felt so much better that I would do it again under total 
>>>> control.  Worried? Yes, but I realized afterwards it should have been done 
>>>> earlier.
>>>> 
>>>> Richard H.  
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 4:27:30 PM UTC-5, Beth wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> HI Jeannie and all, ...I am due for BCR abl testing so should get it in 
>>>>> the next two weeks, results two weeks later...so I will update when I 
>>>>> know more...Had a consult today at the Block Center here in 
>>>>> Illinois.People tend to love him or hate him... I really like him. He 
>>>>> thinks all my issues are sprycel related. Thinks I should go off 
>>>>> everything and have drug holiday to give my autoimmune system a 
>>>>> rest....steroids briefly to try and lower cpk so I can move better 
>>>>> without such a severe boomerang effect.  Back issues are no worse. That's 
>>>>> good news from my end....since there have been several of my fellow 
>>>>> warriors here who have lost there remissions spontaneously after years of 
>>>>> successful treatment with their TKI's.  I am scared to go off, unless I 
>>>>> have to ...ie. like I did for past surgeries....however, I am thinking 
>>>>> about it...perhaps I am just too toxic, and time off would help me to 
>>>>> rebuild and repair, and tolerate better the TKI"s when I re-uptake in the 
>>>>> future......so I am sitting with this decision..Not sure what I am going 
>>>>> to do...except pray, and listen to other's words of wisdom....I know if I 
>>>>> ask Dr. Druker, he would be fine with my taking a drug holiday..but I 
>>>>> emailed anyway......thoughts from my friends here????
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Love and 18;s, Beth
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Wed, Oct 7, 2015 12:59 pm
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Beth and how are you?? 
>>>>> Would love to have an update on all.  Thanks!! ❤️❤️
>>>>> 
>>>>> My Motto: Faith and Pills
>>>>> Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s 
>>>>> Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
>>>>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>>>>> Started Tasigna  9/2009
>>>>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>>>>> Started Ponatinib January 2015
>>>>> Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:35 AM, bkbarney via CMLHope 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Richard,
>>>>> Sounds like good news all the way around. Hope your counts continue to 
>>>>> hold well and the November visit to the onc is a positive one! Your wife 
>>>>> is healing well..slow and steady. Thanks for sharing the good 
>>>>> news....Keeping you both in my thoughts and prayers. Beth
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Wed, Oct 7, 2015 9:26 am
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Richard and happy you are better.  I hope your wife will be home soon. 
>>>>> Prayers always. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> My Motto: Faith and Pills
>>>>> Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s 
>>>>> Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
>>>>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>>>>> Started Tasigna  9/2009
>>>>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>>>>> Started Ponatinib January 2015
>>>>> Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 12:01 AM, Richard H <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> All is good at this house.  Saw Kidney Dr. and my tests have improved the 
>>>>> last 3 times.  Took my CBC and I am keeping my Hem. is holding at 10.  I 
>>>>> hope it stays there until the end of Nov. when I visit my ONC.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> My wife is improving, and will see the Dr. Oct. 21st to see if she can 
>>>>> start putting weight on the right side.  Shoulder seems to be healing 
>>>>> nicely.  She has the healing knot on the shoulder and is feeding herself 
>>>>> with her right hand and is raising the upper arm to almost shoulder 
>>>>> height without pain.  We are hoping she can come home in Nov. when she 
>>>>> can get out of the wheel chair and up and down without help.  Due to 
>>>>> heart surgery and a pacemaker all I can due is call for help if she has a 
>>>>> problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 18's
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard H. 
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