Thanks Jeanie,
I really do not worry because as you know, it's not productive and helps 
NOTHING.  I also am thankful my bp has gone down to normal without medication, 
as I really have tried to relieve all stress in my life.  Has your bp gone 
down?  I sure hope so.  We can create our own stress by worrying, or relax in 
the everyday joy of going through trials to make us stronger....  I am praying 
for your side pain to go away, for sure.  I'd like for you to get to the bottom 
of that.  There's something causing it.  Have you considered having that pet 
scan I mentioned?  The earlier something is caught, of course the better.


Blessings and love to you as you enjoy every day as a gift.  18's,
SZ







-----Original Message-----
From: 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Jan 4, 2016 5:21 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Re: stroke



Hi Susan ,
Just wanted to tell you that my mom and grandmother both had strokes in their 
late 70s. 
My sister died of a stroke in her late 60s. So it runs in the women of my 
family.  
Of course they weren't on tkis but we're on medicines for other things. 
My doctor warned me to keep my BP down to avoid strokes while on ponatinib.  
Well all the BP meds make me sick so I can't take them. 
I think we have a lot of stress due to the CML and worrying about the meds we 
take; I know I do. 
Good luck and continue to mend and thanks for the info on strokes.  
My mom was completely out of it when she had her stroke. She had to learn to 
read and write again and attended those therapies. 
After a while she became her old self again until she fell and broke her hip. 
❤️💋💋😇💗

My Motto: Faith and Pills
Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s 
Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
Started Gleevec 2/2004
Started Tasigna  9/2009
Started Sprycel 11/2009
Started Ponatinib January 2015
Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center


On Jan 3, 2016, at 9:00 PM, 'Susan Zimmerman' via CMLHope 
<[email protected]> wrote:



Hi Jeanie,
I have had four previous strokes, all due to trying the four other meds that 
are out.  With gleevec I had two strokes while I was on it that were minor.  
The docs were not convinced the gleevec caused it, but I was!  Then 2 years 
after being off all drugs for cml, I had a major stroke which at first left my 
eye frozen, and damaged hearing, along with balance problems.  Thankfully, 
those things all went away after 3 months.  I am most blessed.  Then each other 
pill I tried, (all 3 others) I had a symptom of stroke almost immediately.  
(bad eye bleed, frozen eye like the big stroke).  They could only find 
cavernous malformations in my brain to lend itself to such easy bleeding.  
About 9 months ago I went back on the last drug, bosulif, because my numbers 
were getting pretty high after 7 yrs of no meds at all.  I started with 100 mg 
of bosulif, which is very low. The usual dose is 500 mg.  When my numbers went 
up just a little after being in remission, the docs suggested I go to 300 mg.  
I agreed only to 200 mg.  So this time, I had doubled my dosage, and 10 days 
later, had double vision and severe nausea all afternoon right when we were 
sharing Christmas with my son and whole family on the 26th.  I wasn't sure 
about it, I thought it might be all the sugar I ate, as I am diabetic.  So 
decided just to hit the bed for the evening so as not to ruin their visit.  
Kids left next day. Then on Wednesday, continuing the double vision somewhat, I 
vomited.  The docs had all said one more symptom get to the e.r., so I went.  
Sure enough, the ct scan showed 4 new blood spots in four different parts of my 
brain. (that was a new one, usually they were all in same place.)  Luckily very 
little was affected this time, halleluhiah!


Long ago the statistics used to be only 1% had brain bleeds, i.e. strokes from 
these medications.  I am one of the 1%.  Don't know if the figures have 
changed, but one thing I do know.  None of you need to worry about this 
happening to you.  My father died of a brain aneurysm, so apparently I'm prone 
to it.  But I know I'll only go when it's His timing, not my own!  I'll keep 
plugging and try to keep a joyful heart until then!  Definitely planning on 
enjoying my retirement.


18's and love,
Susan Z




-----Original Message-----
From: 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Jan 3, 2016 1:24 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Re: stroke



Hi Susan,
Just wondering how you knew you were having a stroke??  The tkis say wash your 
hands after handling and these are going in out stomach!!! 
Keep strong and keep fighting!!
❤️💋😇🎼

My Motto: Faith and Pills
Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s 
Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
Started Gleevec 2/2004
Started Tasigna  9/2009
Started Sprycel 11/2009
Started Ponatinib January 2015
Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center


On Jan 3, 2016, at 1:00 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope <[email protected]> 
wrote:



Susan, you are a strong and amazingly positive woman...I am so sorry this 
happened..but trust you will heal.....I think it's so hard to know what to 
do..regarding dosages and changing meds.....trust your own knowing about your 
body and your own knowing about what may work best for you..


Much love and healing energy... Beth



-----Original Message-----
From: 'Susan Zimmerman' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Dec 30, 2015 11:50 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Re: stroke


    
Dear all,
Just a note to say I'm in my local hospital. It did turn out to be a small 
stroke which started last Sat. In morning I will learn if 2nd cat svan showed 
the bleeding stopped. Prayers are appreciated. I am agitated w myself for 
agreeing to up the bosulif when my numbers increased just a little. If I had 
followed the doc's suggestion of an even higher dose I would be dead now. After 
10 days on 200 mg of bosulif, here comes another stroke! Regular dose is 500 
mg. I'm just weird. So now off all bosulif. Pray my numbers stay down for 
several months...dont need another one! God is in charge...Jeannie, without 
pills this time lol. You all mean so much to me. I'm feeling fine now. God 
bless and stay safe on new year's eve! Thanks for yr. prayers.
18's and love, Sz


Sent from my Sprint phone




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From: Myvety2k via CMLHope 
Date: Wed, Dec 30, 2015 3:34 PM
To: [email protected];
Subject:Re: [CMLHope] Re: Merry Christmas and happy Hilidays




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