Dear Geoff, I completely understand your problem :) As far as I know TinyMCE and FCKEditor have a built in tidy to clean up MSWord etc. trash, and - more importantly - you can control which elements can pass the html filter(s). Neither of these could do the job of filtering empty tags, eg. <p> </p>. TinyMCE has a different logic in comparison with FCKEditor and HTMLArea (Xynha) - here is a link with some interesting plugins for the first: http://tinymce.kirow.hu/en/index.html
On the other hand, FCKEditor have several templates (and you can make your own) pluggable/pasteable into your documents, eg. with left aligned picture and text wrapping around etc. So give it a try :) - http://www.fckeditor.net/ Regards, Janos 2005/11/30, Geoff Deering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > Just wondering how others handle this problem of developing web sites; > good markup and design, but then need to put it into some sort of CMS so > that users can *easily* manage their content. Importantly, the CMS has > to have facilities that clean up markup. Not just some button on the > editor that you click to clean up markup. > > Briefly, some sort of WYSIWYG would be great, but I find that TinyMCE, > and all the rest of them, have their own problem where people can easily > cut and paste from a MS Word document, which absolutely murders what one > is trying to do by creating a uniform site design, and I have seen > nothing that goes close to cleaning it up. Admittedly I probably > haven't tried hard enough. Text does not wrap around images properly, > one should not, in my way of thinking have to educate users which style > to adopt from drop down menus. > > We really need server side web editors that deploy selected css within > their WYSIWYG editors. > > It's frustrating to even see default installs of WordPress and their > answer to inserting images (a simple URL dialog box). Are there any > good plugins to address this? The FrontImage plugin looked good, but > link is broken, it's hard to find the solutions worth following. > > For some of my clients, TextPattern just doesn't seem to cut it in this > area. Maybe others know which plugins to use to make it better. > > Similar problems with CMSMadeSimple. > > I can't run Plone on my server. Maybe I need to get another one that will. > > Sorry for the whinge, but I'd really like to know if others have > solutions that work well for their users. I don't want to use anything > that requires specific software be installed on the client side. It has > to be a full web based solution. > > ---------------- > Geoff Deering > ********************************************************* > The CMS discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > ********************************************************* > > ********************************************************* The CMS discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *********************************************************
