I myself have been using FCKEditor (really the only ASP driven option)
and what I do is go into the toolbars and only allow clients to use the
"paste as plain text" button, which solves MOST of the text woes, but
still leaves me fighting unclosed <p> tags etc...
I'm interested to hear more on what some of the others do as well.
Joe Taylor
http://sitesbyjoe.com
Janos Hardi wrote:
Dear Geoff,
I completely understand your problem :) As far as I know TinyMCE and
FCKEditor have a built in tidy to clean up MSWord etc. trash, and -
more importantly - you can control which elements can pass the html
filter(s). Neither of these could do the job of filtering empty tags,
eg. <p> </p>. TinyMCE has a different logic in comparison with
FCKEditor and HTMLArea (Xynha) - here is a link with some interesting
plugins for the first: http://tinymce.kirow.hu/en/index.html
On the other hand, FCKEditor have several templates (and you can make
your own) pluggable/pasteable into your documents, eg. with left
aligned picture and text wrapping around etc. So give it a try :) -
http://www.fckeditor.net/
Regards,
Janos
2005/11/30, Geoff Deering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hi,
Just wondering how others handle this problem of developing web sites;
good markup and design, but then need to put it into some sort of CMS so
that users can *easily* manage their content. Importantly, the CMS has
to have facilities that clean up markup. Not just some button on the
editor that you click to clean up markup.
Briefly, some sort of WYSIWYG would be great, but I find that TinyMCE,
and all the rest of them, have their own problem where people can easily
cut and paste from a MS Word document, which absolutely murders what one
is trying to do by creating a uniform site design, and I have seen
nothing that goes close to cleaning it up. Admittedly I probably
haven't tried hard enough. Text does not wrap around images properly,
one should not, in my way of thinking have to educate users which style
to adopt from drop down menus.
We really need server side web editors that deploy selected css within
their WYSIWYG editors.
It's frustrating to even see default installs of WordPress and their
answer to inserting images (a simple URL dialog box). Are there any
good plugins to address this? The FrontImage plugin looked good, but
link is broken, it's hard to find the solutions worth following.
For some of my clients, TextPattern just doesn't seem to cut it in this
area. Maybe others know which plugins to use to make it better.
Similar problems with CMSMadeSimple.
I can't run Plone on my server. Maybe I need to get another one that will.
Sorry for the whinge, but I'd really like to know if others have
solutions that work well for their users. I don't want to use anything
that requires specific software be installed on the client side. It has
to be a full web based solution.
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Geoff Deering
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