My 1974 35 MKII has Groco hull valves.  My surveyor informed me that Groco
bronze valves are high quality...problem I have is where they are
located...very hard to get at so they don't see much action...mostly always
open and I need to remind myself to check from time to time to make sure
they are still operable

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Martin DeYoung
Sent: September 11, 2012 3:41 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Stus-List Thru Hulls/seacocks

Calypso's seacocks also seem to be custom, likely similar to the first C&C
61's built in 1970 and 71.  They look like a bronze pipe with a round bronze
handle that rotates a screw thread to lower a short (4" travel) tapered plug
(flush to the hull when closed).

I have serviced these twice which includes full disassembly, new gaskets
(hand made), new packing on the shaft gland, water resistant lube on the
threads, and coating the inside with Pettit's zinc Barnacle Barrier paint
(salt water exposure, year round).  There are no seals other than an
interference fit at the taper.  

Operating this type of seacock is not easy, and they do not seal well.  The
seal is good enough to save the boat in case of hose failure, but not enough
to allow a full shut condition for maintenance and leaving the boat
unattended.  I back up these seacocks (not the cockpit drains) with a marine
ball valve which is easily opened and closed.

One of these days I will wriggle my butt way back behind the cockpit and
take a picture of Calypso's bilge pump discharge manifold.  Some C&C
fabricator must have been smoking something strong to come up with this
piece of bronze art work.  It accommodates 3 different inputs (one 3" dia.
hose) and includes an anti siphon loop.  When replacing Calypso's plumbing
10 years ago we considered replacing it with something less unique but
ultimately decided it was a decent approach to the bilge pump discharge
needs.

Martin
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Graham Collins
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 9:26 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Stus-List Thru Hulls/seacocks

I think C&C ran the plumbing differently each time!

Mine is an '83 and has the presumably original Wilcox Crittenden tapered 
cone seacocks throughout - I've got 8 of the things in total.  Up front 
I've got one each for the head intake, head outflow, and sink drain.  
These are all under the v-berth.

My shower drain goes to a pump in the cabinet under the sink, then aft 
and up, exiting just under the toe rail midship.

Both my bilge pumps run all the way to the stern, they are likely 
underwater a good % of the time but the hose run has a big upward bump 
section before they come back down and out, so little risk of reverse 
flow.  No seacocks on these - they are inaccessible anyway.

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11

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