Dennis, I have something similar but on my 35-2 what it is looks like already moulded into the headliner is a space for the 2.5" backing plate of a stand up block to be used either for reefing or Cunningham to be led aft. Or possibly a staysail halyard. Mine was used at one time then glassed over
ALEX GIANNELIA CC 35-II (1974) WILL BE RENAMED ON THE HARD SINCE NOV. 2006 Toronto Ontario -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: December 2, 2012 9:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 83, Issue 4 Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: MIRAGE Paint Job ([email protected]) 2. Re: MIRAGE Paint Job (D.Drake) 3. Keel stub cracks (Tim Goodyear) 4. Re: Keel stub cracks (dwight veinot) 5. Re: 35-1 headliner bump (Russ & Melody) 6. 35/3 bilge pump (Joel Aronson) 7. Re: 35/3 bilge pump (Sam Salter) 8. Re: Keel stub cracks (Graham Collins) 9. Re: 35/3 bilge pump (Lee Youngblood) 10. Re: MIRAGE Paint Job ([email protected]) 11. Re: 35/3 bilge pump (Joel Aronson) 12. Re: 35/3 bilge pump (Joel Aronson) 13. Re: 35/3 bilge pump - patching holes underway (Dennis C.) 14. Re: 35/3 bilge pump - patching holes underway (Joel Aronson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 12:13:45 -0500 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List MIRAGE Paint Job Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii WOW WOW WOW They let you work on it yourselves and on weekends too? That is great. We have Zoomer at Yacht Management in Bristol RI, and we got the shaft. Can only work on the boat Mon thru Fri 7am to 3pm Really sucks when you have to travel 2 hours up and back... ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 14:24:10 -0500 From: "D.Drake" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List MIRAGE Paint Job Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" BIG JOB !! LOTS OF CONTORTIONS Keep the girl and don't stop . I lost a a season doing my 26 up .The wife and I spent every spare moment working on the boat .In the end it looked fantastic .I would never do it again though ! On 02/12/2012 9:56 AM, Joel Aronson wrote: > Wow. Nice work! > > Joel Aronson > > > On Dec 2, 2012, at 9:18 AM, "[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> Thanks David, >> >> I have uploaded a few pictures of the project to Flickr. >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/46147579@N08/sets/72157632149487011/ >> >> Short day today...get Christmas tree...ready mast for storage...a >> little more sanding...clean up...watch Patriots. >> >> Harry >> MIRAGE >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 4:46 PM, David Risch wrote: >> >> Harry, >> >> So very impressed...keep it up. >> >> David F. Risch >> (401) 419-4650 (cell) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] -- D.Drake 73 Jensen Healey C&C 26 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Rear of keel I've been trying to resolve this for a while; two separate boat yards have had a go at if, and the area is now solid fiberglass / epoxy, but still a tiny crack / area of moisture. There was water in the bilge just aft of the rear keel bolt (I removed the floorboards and sponged the area dry). Water would not normally stay in that area, but the boat is tilted back a little on the stands. I have not had the keel bolts torqued in 7 years (since I bought Mojito). Mast Step area This is the first year I've noticed moisture in that area; there have been hairline cracks in the antifouling before. The mast is stepped and I can't access that area through the mast step, which appears sound. Thanks, Tim Mojito 1984 C&C 35-3 Branford, CT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I was checking on Mojito this morning, and noticed beads of moisture in two areas; a spot at the top of the keel trailing edge and an 8" hairline crack on the port side at hull / keel stub (almost exactly where the mast step is internally). Would this have been enough for you to go ahead with major keel surgery? Rear of keel I've been trying to resolve this for a while; two separate boat yards have had a go at if, and the area is now solid fiberglass / epoxy, but still a tiny crack / area of moisture. There was water in the bilge just aft of the rear keel bolt (I removed the floorboards and sponged the area dry). Water would not normally stay in that area, but the boat is tilted back a little on the stands. I have not had the keel bolts torqued in 7 years (since I bought Mojito). Mast Step area This is the first year I've noticed moisture in that area; there have been hairline cracks in the antifouling before. The mast is stepped and I can't access that area through the mast step, which appears sound. Thanks, Tim Mojito 1984 C&C 35-3 Branford, CT _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2634/5432 - Release Date: 12/02/12 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20121202/7d35af62/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 15:15:01 -0800 From: Russ & Melody <[email protected]> To: [email protected],[email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-1 headliner bump Message-ID: <20121202231521.KDU1732.priv-edtnes25.telusplanet.net@edtncm04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Hi Dennis, I have one. The flat surface is the same elevation as the handrail landing(s). On deck there is a corresponding round spot with no non-skid. It looks like the option was to mount a spring supported turning block there to lead a control line aft. I believe it would have been cut & cover'd for nut & backing plate access. I have no idea which optional control line it was intended for and I have forgotten who I lent my book "Sail Power" to, so I'm missing that bit of 70s reference. I know, it sucks! Cheers, Rus Sweet 35 mk-1 east side, Vancouver Isd... and recently re-subscribed after a couple o' weeks in France so I'm a bit outta touch on list matters At 02:08 PM 30/11/2012, you wrote: >I'll see if I have one. > > >Joe Della Barba >[email protected] > >-----Original Message----- >From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dennis C. >Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:50 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Stus-List 35-1 headliner bump > >On my 35-1 there is a molded protrusion in the headliner at the port forward >corner of the midships hatch. It's about 3 inches square. There is nothing >on the deck above it. > >I've always wondered what it was for. Any ideas? > >Dennis C. >Touch? 35-1 #83 >Mandeville, LA > >Sent from my iPhone >_______________________________________________ >This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >[email protected] > > >_______________________________________________ >This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >[email protected] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20121202/83006656/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 18:32:47 -0500 From: Joel Aronson <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Stus-List 35/3 bilge pump Message-ID: <3956969429930999357@unknownmsgid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The bilge pump on my 35/3 is under the forward dinette seat. A hose leads to a strainer in the forward sump just behind the mast. I'd like to replace it with a higher volume pump, but I can't find one that will fit in the bilge compartment next to the keel bolt without spending ridiculous amounts of money. Any recommendations? Joel 35/3 The Office Annapolis Sent from my iPad ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 17:23:06 -0700 From: Sam Salter <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List 35/3 bilge pump Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Joel, I bought one of these (I haven't fitted it yet) it has a built in electronic float switch and will fit between my keel bolts. http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1%7C51%7C299222%7C84462%7C316440&id=1579952 If anyone else has one working I'd be interested if it was an OK choice! sam :-) C&C 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta On 2012-12-02, at 4:32 PM, Joel Aronson <[email protected]> wrote: > The bilge pump on my 35/3 is under the forward dinette seat. A hose > leads to a strainer in the forward sump just behind the mast. I'd > like to replace it with a higher volume pump, but I can't find one > that will fit in the bilge compartment next to the keel bolt without > spending ridiculous amounts of money. Any recommendations? > > Joel > 35/3 > The Office > Annapolis > Sent from my iPad > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 20:34:39 -0400 From: Graham Collins <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Keel stub cracks Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Hi Tim I'd pull the cabin sole and see if the floor grid is still well attached to the hull at the turn of the bilge, I'm guessing on the port side it is not. Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 Tim Goodyear wrote: > Hello all 35-3 owners - I'm looking for some advice, especially from > those who have re-habbed their keels on this model... > I was checking on Mojito this morning, and noticed beads of moisture > in two areas; a spot at the top of the keel trailing edge and an > 8" hairline crack on the port side at hull / keel stub (almost exactly > where the mast step is internally). Would this have been enough for > you to go ahead with major keel surgery? > Rear of keel > I've been trying to resolve this for a while; two separate boat yards > have had a go at if, and the area is now solid fiberglass / epoxy, but > still a tiny crack / area of moisture. There was water in the bilge > just aft of the rear keel bolt (I removed the floorboards and sponged > the area dry). Water would not normally stay in that area, but the > boat is tilted back a little on the stands. I have not had the keel > bolts torqued in 7 years (since I bought Mojito). > Mast Step area > This is the first year I've noticed moisture in that area; there have > been hairline cracks in the antifouling before. The mast is stepped > and I can't access that area through the mast step, which appears sound. > Thanks, > Tim > Mojito > 1984 C&C 35-3 > Branford, CT > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 16:53:19 -0800 From: Lee Youngblood <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List 35/3 bilge pump Message-ID: <a06240803cce1a6615d36@[10.0.2.2]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Hi Joel, Your job is not to need it! Read John Vigors blog from November 27, 2012 How fast will you sink? http://www.johnvigor.com/Blog.html Sometimes I think pumps are like "psychological placements" when rock climbing, you put them in when you can, and it helps to think you tried, but you know it won't stop you if you fall. I zippered six or eith pitons in the old days, and was saved by my partner. I landed on top of him, and he was hurt a lot more than me. Oops. Usually color of the pump doesn't matter, just get the biggest one that will fit, and install well. Good Luck, Lee sv Simplicity A 1974 C&C 35-II in Seattle rain. >Joel, > >I bought one of these (I haven't fitted it yet) it has a built in >electronic float switch and will fit between my keel bolts. >http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1%7C51%7C299222%7C84462%7C316440&id=1579952 >If anyone else has one working I'd be interested if it was an OK choice! > >sam :-) >C&C 26 Liquorice >Ghost Lake Alberta > >On 2012-12-02, at 4:32 PM, Joel Aronson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The bilge pump on my 35/3 is under the forward dinette seat. A hose >> leads to a strainer in the forward sump just behind the mast. I'd >> like to replace it with a higher volume pump, but I can't find one >> that will fit in the bilge compartment next to the keel bolt without >> spending ridiculous amounts of money. Any recommendations? >> >> Joel >> 35/3 >> The Office > > Annapolis -- ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 01:36:10 +0000 (GMT) From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List MIRAGE Paint Job Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" Ron, I'm not sure what color gold it is. Harry On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Lisa Lias wrote: What color is the trim stripe? It looks really good! Ron C&C 35 mkIII Rhode River On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Joel Aronson < [email protected] <javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('[email protected]')> > wrote: Wow. Nice work! Joel Aronson <javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('[email protected]')> On Dec 2, 2012, at 9:18 AM, " [email protected] <javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('[email protected]')> " < [email protected] <javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('[email protected]')> > wrote: <javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('[email protected]')> Thanks David, I have uploaded a few pictures of the project to Flickr. http://www.flickr.com/photos/46147579@N08/sets/72157632149487011/ <http://www.flickr.com/photos/46147579@N08/sets/72157632149487011/> Short day today...get Christmas tree...ready mast for storage...a little more sanding...clean up...watch Patriots. Harry MIRAGE On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 4:46 PM, David Risch wrote: ? Harry, So very impressed...keep it up. David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 <tel:%28401%29%20419-4650> (cell) _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com <http://www.cncphotoalbum.com> [email protected] <javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('[email protected]')> <javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('[email protected]')> _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com <http://www.cncphotoalbum.com> [email protected] <javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('[email protected]')> ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com <http://www.cncphotoalbum.com> ? <http://www.cncphotoalbum.com> [email protected] <javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('[email protected]')> ? <javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('[email protected]')> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks Joel Aronson On Dec 2, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Sam Salter <[email protected]> wrote: > Joel, > > I bought one of these (I haven't fitted it yet) it has a built in electronic > float switch and will fit between my keel bolts. > http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1%7C51%7C299222%7C84462%7C316440&id=1579952 > If anyone else has one working I'd be interested if it was an OK choice! > > sam :-) > C&C 26 Liquorice > Ghost Lake Alberta > > On 2012-12-02, at 4:32 PM, Joel Aronson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The bilge pump on my 35/3 is under the forward dinette seat. A hose >> leads to a strainer in the forward sump just behind the mast. I'd >> like to replace it with a higher volume pump, but I can't find one >> that will fit in the bilge compartment next to the keel bolt without >> spending ridiculous amounts of money. Any recommendations? >> >> Joel >> 35/3 >> The Office >> Annapolis >> Sent from my iPad >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 20:59:18 -0500 From: Joel Aronson <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List 35/3 bilge pump Message-ID: <8667056575633805910@unknownmsgid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Lee, if he is right Note that a mere 2-inch-diameter hole 3 feet below the waterline will let in 69 gallons a minute, or more than 4,000 gallons an hour. and my pump is 4 gpm and I use both manual pumps I'm still screwed! Joel Sent from my iPad On Dec 2, 2012, at 7:54 PM, Lee Youngblood <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Joel, Your job is not to need it! Read John Vigors blog from November 27, 2012 How fast will you sink? http://www.johnvigor.com/Blog.html Sometimes I think pumps are like "psychological placements" when rock climbing, you put them in when you can, and it helps to think you tried, but you know it won't stop you if you fall. I zippered six or eith pitons in the old days, and was saved by my partner. I landed on top of him, and he was hurt a lot more than me. Oops. Usually color of the pump doesn't matter, just get the biggest one that will fit, and install well. Good Luck, Lee sv Simplicity A 1974 C&C 35-II in Seattle rain. Joel, I bought one of these (I haven't fitted it yet) it has a built in electronic float switch and will fit between my keel bolts. http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1%7C51%7C299222%7C84462%7C316440&id=1579952 If anyone else has one working I'd be interested if it was an OK choice! sam :-) C&C 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta On 2012-12-02, at 4:32 PM, Joel Aronson <[email protected]> wrote: The bilge pump on my 35/3 is under the forward dinette seat. A hose leads to a strainer in the forward sump just behind the mast. I'd like to replace it with a higher volume pump, but I can't find one that will fit in the bilge compartment next to the keel bolt without spending ridiculous amounts of money. Any recommendations? Joel 35/3 The Office > Annapolis -- _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20121202/bb38b848/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 18:25:07 -0800 (PST) From: "Dennis C." <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List 35/3 bilge pump - patching holes underway Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Joel, Just my opinion but first, most of your boat isn't 3 feet below the waterline.? Second, the hole probably won't be a full 2 inches open but a jagged splintered opening.? Third, go buy 3 or 4 toilet bowl wax rings and throw them on the boat.? They'll plug a lot of oddly shaped holes.? Wad them up and jam them in the hole, smash them in really good. Third, slowing down the flow of a hole isn't terribly difficult.? Place a life jacket, pillow or whatever is handy over the hole and brace it with more "stuff".? Maybe keep an inflatable dinghy flotation bag on board to press the seal against the hull.? Spend some time thinking about how you would patch a hole here or there or over there.? Many of us Navy vets went through damage control training.? The training was real.? We were placed in a training mock up where water poured in through various holes of different shapes and locations.? You'd be surprised at how quickly you get creative when you're getting inundated with hundreds (not 69).? :) If you can't slow the flow down substantially, a larger bilge pump isn't going to save you.? Put your boat bucks in a good DSC distress capable VHF radio. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA >________________________________ > From: Joel Aronson <[email protected]> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 7:59 PM >Subject: Re: Stus-List 35/3 bilge pump > > >Lee, if he is right? > >Note that a mere 2-inch-diameter hole 3 feet below the waterline will let in >69 gallons a minute, or more than 4,000 gallons an hour.? > > >and my pump is 4 gpm and I use both manual pumps I'm still screwed!Joel >Sent from my iPad > >On Dec 2, 2012, at 7:54 PM, Lee Youngblood <[email protected]> wrote: > > >Hi Joel, >> >>Your job is not to need it! ?Read John Vigors blog from November 27, 2012 >>How fast will you sink? ??http://www.johnvigor.com/Blog.html >> >>Sometimes I think pumps are like "psychological placements" when rock >>climbing, you put them in when you can, and it helps to think you tried, but >>you know it won't stop you if you fall. ?I zippered six or eith pitons in the >>old days, and was saved by my partner. ?I landed on top of him, and he was >>hurt a lot more than me. ?Oops. >> >>Usually color of the pump doesn't matter, just get the biggest one that will >>fit, and install well. >> >>Good Luck, Lee >>sv Simplicity >>A 1974 C&C 35-II in Seattle rain. >> >> >> >>Joel, >>> >> >>> >>I bought one of these (I haven't fitted it yet) it has a built in electronic >>float switch and will fit between my keel bolts. >>> >>http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1%7C51%7C299222%7C84462%7C316440&id=1579952 >>> >>If anyone else has one working I'd be interested if it was an OK choice! >>> >> >>> >>sam :-) >>> >>C&C 26 ?Liquorice >>> >>Ghost Lake ?Alberta >>> >> >>> >>On 2012-12-02, at 4:32 PM, Joel Aronson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>The bilge pump on my 35/3 is under the forward dinette seat. ?A hose >>>> >>leads to a strainer in the forward sump just behind the mast. ?I'd >>>> >>like to replace it with a higher volume pump, but I can't find one >>>> >>that will fit in the bilge compartment next to the keel bolt without >>>> >>spending ridiculous amounts of money. ?Any recommendations? >>>> >> >>>> >>Joel >>>> >>35/3 >>>> >>The Office >>>> >>> Annapolis >>> >>-- >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>[email protected] >> >_______________________________________________ >This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >[email protected] > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20121202/3f535db5/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 21:29:55 -0500 From: Joel Aronson <[email protected]> To: "Dennis C." <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List 35/3 bilge pump - patching holes underway Message-ID: <3996550228512107256@unknownmsgid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks! I've got the radio. Never heard of the wax rings. I'll get some. BTW, rigged a webcam and old laptop as a no cost bilge monitor. Joel Sent from my iPad On Dec 2, 2012, at 9:25 PM, "Dennis C." <[email protected]> wrote: Joel, Just my opinion but first, most of your boat isn't 3 feet below the waterline. Second, the hole probably won't be a full 2 inches open but a jagged splintered opening. Third, go buy 3 or 4 toilet bowl wax rings and throw them on the boat. They'll plug a lot of oddly shaped holes. Wad them up and jam them in the hole, smash them in really good. Third, slowing down the flow of a hole isn't terribly difficult. Place a life jacket, pillow or whatever is handy over the hole and brace it with more "stuff". Maybe keep an inflatable dinghy flotation bag on board to press the seal against the hull. Spend some time thinking about how you would patch a hole here or there or over there. Many of us Navy vets went through damage control training. The training was real. We were placed in a training mock up where water poured in through various holes of different shapes and locations. You'd be surprised at how quickly you get creative when you're getting inundated with hundreds (not 69). :) If you can't slow the flow down substantially, a larger bilge pump isn't going to save you. Put your boat bucks in a good DSC distress capable VHF radio. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ------------------------------ *From:* Joel Aronson <[email protected]> *To:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]> *Sent:* Sunday, December 2, 2012 7:59 PM *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 35/3 bilge pump Lee, if he is right Note that a mere 2-inch-diameter hole 3 feet below the waterline will let in 69 gallons a minute, or more than 4,000 gallons an hour. and my pump is 4 gpm and I use both manual pumps I'm still screwed! Joel Sent from my iPad On Dec 2, 2012, at 7:54 PM, Lee Youngblood <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Joel, Your job is not to need it! Read John Vigors blog from November 27, 2012 How fast will you sink? http://www.johnvigor.com/Blog.html Sometimes I think pumps are like "psychological placements" when rock climbing, you put them in when you can, and it helps to think you tried, but you know it won't stop you if you fall. I zippered six or eith pitons in the old days, and was saved by my partner. I landed on top of him, and he was hurt a lot more than me. Oops. Usually color of the pump doesn't matter, just get the biggest one that will fit, and install well. Good Luck, Lee sv Simplicity A 1974 C&C 35-II in Seattle rain. Joel, I bought one of these (I haven't fitted it yet) it has a built in electronic float switch and will fit between my keel bolts. http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1%7C51%7C299222%7C84462%7C316440&id=1579952 If anyone else has one working I'd be interested if it was an OK choice! sam :-) C&C 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta On 2012-12-02, at 4:32 PM, Joel Aronson <[email protected]> wrote: The bilge pump on my 35/3 is under the forward dinette seat. A hose leads to a strainer in the forward sump just behind the mast. I'd like to replace it with a higher volume pump, but I can't find one that will fit in the bilge compartment next to the keel bolt without spending ridiculous amounts of money. Any recommendations? 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