Hi Richard,

Your observations are good.

These comments are from a table in Skeene's Elements of Yacht Design discussing effects of IOR: Snub stern: general effects - reduces weight in end giving small trim forward and may give boat unbalanced look. Effect on rating - no change to slightly lower. Effect on speed - weight saved in ends should make hobby-horsing less and give sails a better "platform" to operate from with very small increase in speed & comfort.

While not really a snub stern, the benefits are the similar and the C&C stern is wider for more "power" capacity. I recall there being a deck length measure in IOR that also favours a reverse transom but I cannot be sure.

Anyhow, wheel steering was much favoured especially for yachts that would also be cruised. The reverse transom got a skipper behind the wheel pushed forward and can be a significant weight distribution forward, if ya know what I mean :)

        Cheers, Russ
Sweet, 35 mk-1... An early IOR yacht that is more similar to the CCA rating influence than IOR.

At 09:04 PM 19/01/2013, you wrote:
This is January armchair stuff I confess, but I have always wondered about the way different boat lengths are listed; I know there has been some discussion about the 37+ which is actually 40 overall; but what really got me wondering was this fall when the local boats were hauled and set on cradles for the winter, my 33-2 was placed right next to a S2 30 of about the same vintage; the rigs were identical, the boats looks very similar on deck, and ths sail area is about the same; (of course the under body of the hull designs were different); but what stood out to me was that the boats were nearly the same except for the reverse stern on the C&C; my theory is that C&C put the extra length on the stern so that when heeled, the boat will have added waterline length and hence be faster; (and they were also designing to maximize the benefits under a rating rule). On the other hand, for day-to-day all around usage it seems that the C&C is a 30 ft boat with 3 extra feet of transom. When I look at the other C&C designs from the same era I see the same trend. I compared the total sail and displacement of several 35 foot boats to the same stats for s 1986 C&C 38-3 and the numbers, while not identical, were surprisingly similar... [Caveat; I am not denigrating any of the boats and absolutely love the C&C designs, I'm on my 3rd ( 25, 29 and current 33-2) and looking a possibly no. 4]

Does anyone else see the comparisons or am I just getting cabin fever... pun intended...

many thanks.
Richard
1987 33-2

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