Allen,

Septima is number 167 and she was  commissioned in 1990.  I never saw an XL 
model, but Septima was a "30+" with the great wood interior and standard two 
spreader rig. She came with a Universal 3 cylinder 18 hp diesel and standard 
North Sails.  Originally sold by Sailboats Northeast in Marblehead.

Most people who sailed with us thought she was a 34 footer based on her 
interior space. She looked like they cut off the last four feet off a longer 
hull.  She really carried her beam well aft which, of course, made the space 
for the aft cabin with longitudinal queen berth and stand up head on the other 
side of the companionway.  Her somewhat over square appearance is really 
softened with a California bimini.

I do believe the 36+ and 34+ were lengthened derivative designs.

Expect to get her back next week.

Allen Miles
S/V Septima
C&C 30-2


From: Jake Brodersen 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 7:31 PM
To: 'Allan Rheaume' ; [email protected] 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Best C&C's of all time


Allan,

 

You have a good recollection of the last 30-2.  It was totaled after falling 
over on the hard in Annapolis.  Not sure what happened to it after that.  Maybe 
somebody fixed it up.  It was a great boat.

 

Greg is still racing, but on an Elliott 770 now.  He helped me a lot when I got 
my first C&C.

 

Jake

 

Jake Brodersen

C&C 35 Mk-III

Midnight Mistress

Hampton VA

               



 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Allan Rheaume
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 4:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Stus-List Best C&C's of all time

 

Jim, I've had a 30-2 for 14 years now, what I do know about them: first 4 built 
were 1987 models, they had plexiglass sliding doors for the galley storage and 
the panel behind the companionway steps was hinged opening to the aft cabin. 
The bulk of the boats were 1988 models. Some 1989 models had 3 cylinder 
Universal diesels. Three of the 30-2's were XL models with triple spreader rigs 
and running backstays. The XL's also had honeycombed bulkheads kevlar in the 
hulls and stainless cabin top rails. The last 30-2 was a 1995 XL version, it 
was owned by Greg Cutter who used to be on this list, his hull was # 175.

Allan Rheaume
Drumroll, 30-2 #90
Eastern Lake Ontario

 

 


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From: Jim Reinardy <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 9:38:50 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Best C&C's of all time

 

Chuck,

 

No worries, I get a lot of surprised looks when people see our boat and realize 
how much they packed into a 30 foot hull on the Mark II.  It's very comfortable 
and inviting below.  There has not been much emphasis on 30 foot designs since, 
so I still think the combination of features is pretty unusual in the market 
even today.  The only downside is a fairly small cockpit, but it really has not 
been an issue for us.  It was a huge upgrade from our Catalina 27, I know that!

 

I am not sure of the evolution, the 30-2 was a fairly late design for C&C, 
coming out in 1988 as far as I can tell.  I don't see many that were made after 
'88, which I find interesting.  I know our '88 was a showroom boat in Michigan 
and did not see water until '90.  Can anyone shed any light on the later 
history of this model?

 

Thanks,

 

Jim Reinardy

C&C 30-2 "Firewater"

Milwaukee, WI



Sent from my iPad


On Jul 12, 2013, at 7:08 AM, "Chuck S" <[email protected]> wrote:

  Wow!  I checked the 30 MkII brochure and learned I had the wrong length.  Lot 
of interior in a 30 ft length.  Love that cabinetry.
  I guess Rob Ball tried out the aft cabin idea on the 30 first, then the 37/40 
let him do an island bed, then the 34/36 used an athwartships bunk in back?  
anybody know?

  Sorry if my earlier email sounded arrogant.  I like to be accurate, as I'm 
trying to answer questions about the C&C design evolution.    
  My apologies.  

  Chuck
  Resolute
  1990 C&C 34R
  Atlantic City, NJ


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  From: "Jim Reinardy" <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 11:01:48 PM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Best C&C's of all time

  No, I think he meant the 30, all of what he described is true of the mkII and 
still pretty unusual in a 30 footer.  I do agree that it is a great boat as 
well, but probably have some bias.

   

  Jim Reinardy

  C&C 30-2 “Firewater”

  Milwaukee, WI

   

  From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck S
  Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:07 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Best C&C's of all time

   

  I think he meant the 33 MkII?  It's all in the details.

  Chuck
  Resolute
  1990 C&C 34R
  Atlantic City, NJ


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  From: "dwight veinot" <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 5:26:00 PM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Best C&C's of all time

  Sorry can’t agree with you on the 30 MKII

   

  Dwight Veinot

  C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

  Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

   


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  From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert 
Gallagher
  Sent: July 11, 2013 6:16 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Stus-List Best C&C's of all time

   

  ...And since the 30MKII is the smaller of the three, (37+, 34+, 30MKII) and 
the fact that it had to be the first 30 ft racer cruiser with an aft cabin, aft 
head, walk through transom, and full standing 6'2"+ headroom throughout makes 
it the bestest C&C ever :) 


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