Rich,
Thanks for the feedback. That's the same thought I had. Overall very pleased w 
boat - quality and quantity of sails was better than expected. 
Sent the same email to CS owners list - replies suggest that its not a huge 
deal. 

I'd like seller to absorb part of the hit - but we'll see how that shapes out. 

Mark

Rich Knowles <[email protected]> wrote:

>Mark:  if you have a reasonably good feeling about the boat, make the giant 
>plunge. The price is reasonable and, no matter what boat you buy, you will be 
>putting some money in to make it your boat. 
>
>Decision time, Sir! And you're the one who has to make it!
>
>Rich
>
>> On Nov 3, 2013, at 16:14, M Bod <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Just back from a few hours digging though the boat. 
>> Sails look good. Better than expected. 
>> 
>> Bottom looks good. 
>> Rudder was stiff when I moved it by hand (after I loosened the brake) - 
>> wonder if there is a grease nipple?
>> 
>> Deck and gear all look solid. Windows need to be replaced, couple of spider 
>> cracks near 3 stantion bases. 
>> 
>> Mechanic started engine - bit argumentative, plus has a leak in raw water 
>> part of cooling system (which explains why engine is rusty)  but overall 
>> looks good and ran well. Est $200 to fix leak and tidy up wiring, another 
>> $150 for new alternator (which was a bit rough from the water leak)
>> 
>> Couple suprises
>> Talking w one of the owners he commented that they had hit a rock years back 
>> and the keel was repaired. Looking in the bilge the mast step looked good - 
>> but near the back (last set of double keel bolts) there were a few fine 
>> cracks in the stringers. 
>> I'm guessing the impact pushed back and up on the keel. I forgot to take a 
>> picture - but at the top of the stringer the crack was maybe 1-2mm, the 
>> crack line was just across the top of the stringer (right where the cross 
>> stinger met the longitudinal brace), didn't extend down the stringer far - 
>> 1-4 cm.  I'd say about 3 on either side. 
>> Boat is resting on it keel - so crack should show its worst. 
>> Any guesses on repair cost??
>> Owners have been adamant that there is no more negotiation. 
>> 
>> Also - boat had NO holding tank. Under the pump out hole there was no hose, 
>> and no tank under the v-berth. These owners had the boat since new - 
>> guessing they had the option of not adding the holding tank  ??
>> 
>> As for the shower - boat has no hot water system at all. So adding a shower 
>> would not be a simple job. Not sure its to important, but a nice extra with 
>> a few teenagers 
>> 
>> Last the 'metal cradle in need of some repair' is actually a wood cradle 
>> that has been sitting for 2 yrs in long grass. I'd guess 1/4 of the wood 
>> needs replacing - so likely better off just starting from scratch. 
>> 
>> Didn't get a full survey. Contacted several surveyors and only one bothered 
>> to respond and he was not avail.  Not sure a survey tells me anything I 
>> didn't just discover (other than a quote for repairs). 
>> 
>> I don't think I'm running screaming. The cracks were pretty small.
>> 
>> Thoughts?  Would you run away? Play hard ball to chop off some costs? (And 
>> if they refused what would you do?)
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
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