I have heard it is common practice, but in my view if your toilet is
maintained so it works as designed and the user is paying attention and you
are using the right toilet paper, you should be able to flush the paper
with no problems. I have never had a paper jam but I am meticulous on
maintenance.

On the other hand, if you have a bunch of people using a half-roll of paper
every time, it will jam frequently. I would rather educate the user than
carry around that kind of souvenir.

As to the opening ports, I think it's a great idea. I just don't think that
row of little ports does anything for the looks of the boat. Larger opening
ports would have made the boat a lot better looking. Those little plastic
ones just look cheap. One man's opinion.


On 4 November 2013 03:58, Steve Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Lots of people refuse to allow toilet paper, or anything else that
> wasn't eaten first, to be flushed through the head. You obviously don't
> agree with that practice but I'm surprised that you think it unusual. Not a
> piece of equipment I would want to repair at sea.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]]*On Behalf Of *Jim
> Watts
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 03, 2013 11:00 PM
> *To:* 1 CnC List
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30
>
>  The hull and deck of a CS36 is nice. The ports suck and make the whole
> boat look "off", at least to me. I expect to see a machine gun sticking out
> of one.
> I much prefer the look of a C&C 36, although they don't sail as well. The
> closest competitor was a C&C 37, according to one broker.  Apparently they
> are great sea boats, but the toilets aren't very functional.
>
> The last remark was because a friend was on a CS36 coming back from Hawaii
> and they didn't allow any toilet paper going down the toilet...huh? Keeping
> a can of used toilet paper for three weeks is not my idea of a good time.
> I'm assuming they kept it as a souvenir, and didn't just heave it
> overboard. For all I know, it's still up on the trophy wall in their
> basement.
>
>
> On 3 November 2013 19:44, Robert Abbott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  No specific experience with the CS brand but my understanding is that
>> they are as well constructed as C&C's.  A club member wanted a larger port
>> in the head of his new CS 36...I saw the piece of 'deck' he cut out.....now
>> that was impressive.
>>
>>   I'll bite......is a C&C 30 a prettier looking boat than the CS 30,
>> yep.  Is a C&C 36 a prettier looking boat than a CS 36, nope!
>>
>> Bob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C&C 32 - 84
>> Halifax, N.S.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2013/11/03 5:44 PM, dwight veinot wrote:
>>
>> Haven't seen many posts about what C&C owners here on this list can say
>> about the CS brand...there has been considerable discussion on this list
>> about appearance (on the ,ooring for example) and how much that means to
>> C&C owners...how does the CS 30 rate in that regard with those willing to
>> say and does anyone have any comments about overall quality of construction
>> of CS boats that may be beneficial news for buyers
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Rich Knowles <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Mark:  if you have a reasonably good feeling about the boat, make the
>>> giant plunge. The price is reasonable and, no matter what boat you buy, you
>>> will be putting some money in to make it your boat.
>>>
>>> Decision time, Sir! And you're the one who has to make it!
>>>
>>> Rich
>>>
>>> > On Nov 3, 2013, at 16:14, M Bod <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Just back from a few hours digging though the boat.
>>> > Sails look good. Better than expected.
>>> >
>>> > Bottom looks good.
>>> > Rudder was stiff when I moved it by hand (after I loosened the brake)
>>> - wonder if there is a grease nipple?
>>> >
>>> > Deck and gear all look solid. Windows need to be replaced, couple of
>>> spider cracks near 3 stantion bases.
>>> >
>>> > Mechanic started engine - bit argumentative, plus has a leak in raw
>>> water part of cooling system (which explains why engine is rusty)  but
>>> overall looks good and ran well. Est $200 to fix leak and tidy up wiring,
>>> another $150 for new alternator (which was a bit rough from the water leak)
>>> >
>>> > Couple suprises
>>> > Talking w one of the owners he commented that they had hit a rock
>>> years back and the keel was repaired. Looking in the bilge the mast step
>>> looked good - but near the back (last set of double keel bolts) there were
>>> a few fine cracks in the stringers.
>>> > I'm guessing the impact pushed back and up on the keel. I forgot to
>>> take a picture - but at the top of the stringer the crack was maybe 1-2mm,
>>> the crack line was just across the top of the stringer (right where the
>>> cross stinger met the longitudinal brace), didn't extend down the stringer
>>> far - 1-4 cm.  I'd say about 3 on either side.
>>> > Boat is resting on it keel - so crack should show its worst.
>>> > Any guesses on repair cost??
>>> > Owners have been adamant that there is no more negotiation.
>>> >
>>> > Also - boat had NO holding tank. Under the pump out hole there was no
>>> hose, and no tank under the v-berth. These owners had the boat since new -
>>> guessing they had the option of not adding the holding tank  ??
>>> >
>>> > As for the shower - boat has no hot water system at all. So adding a
>>> shower would not be a simple job. Not sure its to important, but a nice
>>> extra with a few teenagers
>>> >
>>> > Last the 'metal cradle in need of some repair' is actually a wood
>>> cradle that has been sitting for 2 yrs in long grass. I'd guess 1/4 of the
>>> wood needs replacing - so likely better off just starting from scratch.
>>> >
>>> > Didn't get a full survey. Contacted several surveyors and only one
>>> bothered to respond and he was not avail.  Not sure a survey tells me
>>> anything I didn't just discover (other than a quote for repairs).
>>> >
>>> > I don't think I'm running screaming. The cracks were pretty small.
>>> >
>>> > Thoughts?  Would you run away? Play hard ball to chop off some costs?
>>> (And if they refused what would you do?)
>>> >
>>> > Mark
>>> >
>>> >
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>> Alianna
>> C&C 35 MKII
>> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
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