Offshore (100+ miles) bio-degradable paper in brown bag then over the side
because I am NOT pulling apart a head at sea. That plus a fibre filled diet
eliminates problems.
Coastal? I have had one problem with paper in 14 years including kids...lots O'
kids cruising with us.
1981 40-2
David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 cell
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Watts <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 15:29:47
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30
I have heard it is common practice, but in my view if your toilet is maintained
so it works as designed and the user is paying attention and you are using the
right toilet paper, you should be able to flush the paper with no problems. I
have never had a paper jam but I am meticulous on maintenance.
On the other hand, if you have a bunch of people using a half-roll of paper
every time, it will jam frequently. I would rather educate the user than carry
around that kind of souvenir.
As to the opening ports, I think it's a great idea. I just don't think that row
of little ports does anything for the looks of the boat. Larger opening ports
would have made the boat a lot better looking. Those little plastic ones just
look cheap. One man's opinion.
On 4 November 2013 03:58, Steve Thomas <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Lots of people refuse to allow toilet paper, or anything else that wasn't eaten
first, to be flushed through the head. You obviously don't agree with that
practice but I'm surprised that you think it unusual. Not a piece of equipment
I would want to repair at sea.
-----Original Message-----
From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> ]On Behalf Of Jim Watts
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 11:00 PM
To: 1 CnC List
Subject: Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30
The hull and deck of a CS36 is nice. The ports suck and make the whole boat
look "off", at least to me. I expect to see a machine gun sticking out of one.
I much prefer the look of a C&C 36, although they don't sail as well. The
closest competitor was a C&C 37, according to one broker. Apparently they are
great sea boats, but the toilets aren't very functional.
The last remark was because a friend was on a CS36 coming back from Hawaii and
they didn't allow any toilet paper going down the toilet...huh? Keeping a can
of used toilet paper for three weeks is not my idea of a good time. I'm
assuming they kept it as a souvenir, and didn't just heave it overboard. For
all I know, it's still up on the trophy wall in their basement.
On 3 November 2013 19:44, Robert Abbott <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
No specific experience with the CS brand but my understanding is that they are
as well constructed as C&C's. A club member wanted a larger port in the head
of his new CS 36...I saw the piece of 'deck' he cut out.....now that was
impressive.
I'll bite......is a C&C 30 a prettier looking boat than the CS 30, yep. Is a
C&C 36 a prettier looking boat than a CS 36, nope!
Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.
On 2013/11/03 5:44 PM, dwight veinot wrote:
Haven't seen many posts about what C&C owners here on this list can say about
the CS brand...there has been considerable discussion on this list about
appearance (on the ,ooring for example) and how much that means to C&C
owners...how does the CS 30 rate in that regard with those willing to say and
does anyone have any comments about overall quality of construction of CS boats
that may be beneficial news for buyers
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Rich Knowles <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Mark: if you have a reasonably good feeling about the boat, make the giant
plunge. The price is reasonable and, no matter what boat you buy, you will be
putting some money in to make it your boat.
Decision time, Sir! And you're the one who has to make it!
Rich
> On Nov 3, 2013, at 16:14, M Bod <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
>
>
>
> Just back from a few hours digging though the boat.
> Sails look good. Better than expected.
>
> Bottom looks good.
> Rudder was stiff when I moved it by hand (after I loosened the brake) -
> wonder if there is a grease nipple?
>
> Deck and gear all look solid. Windows need to be replaced, couple of spider
> cracks near 3 stantion bases.
>
> Mechanic started engine - bit argumentative, plus has a leak in raw water
> part of cooling system (which explains why engine is rusty) but overall
> looks good and ran well. Est $200 to fix leak and tidy up wiring, another
> $150 for new alternator (which was a bit rough from the water leak)
>
> Couple suprises
> Talking w one of the owners he commented that they had hit a rock years back
> and the keel was repaired. Looking in the bilge the mast step looked good -
> but near the back (last set of double keel bolts) there were a few fine
> cracks in the stringers.
> I'm guessing the impact pushed back and up on the keel. I forgot to take a
> picture - but at the top of the stringer the crack was maybe 1-2mm, the crack
> line was just across the top of the stringer (right where the cross stinger
> met the longitudinal brace), didn't extend down the stringer far - 1-4 cm.
> I'd say about 3 on either side.
> Boat is resting on it keel - so crack should show its worst.
> Any guesses on repair cost??
> Owners have been adamant that there is no more negotiation.
>
> Also - boat had NO holding tank. Under the pump out hole there was no hose,
> and no tank under the v-berth. These owners had the boat since new - guessing
> they had the option of not adding the holding tank ??
>
> As for the shower - boat has no hot water system at all. So adding a shower
> would not be a simple job. Not sure its to important, but a nice extra with a
> few teenagers
>
> Last the 'metal cradle in need of some repair' is actually a wood cradle that
> has been sitting for 2 yrs in long grass. I'd guess 1/4 of the wood needs
> replacing - so likely better off just starting from scratch.
>
> Didn't get a full survey. Contacted several surveyors and only one bothered
> to respond and he was not avail. Not sure a survey tells me anything I
> didn't just discover (other than a quote for repairs).
>
> I don't think I'm running screaming. The cracks were pretty small.
>
> Thoughts? Would you run away? Play hard ball to chop off some costs? (And if
> they refused what would you do?)
>
> Mark
>
>
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