What he said.

Did similar on our J27 to seasons ago and never saw a crack since on
keel/hull joint

-----Original Message-----
From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Robert Abbott via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 10:26 AM
To: Dan Mccorison; [email protected]; Bill Bina
Subject: Stus-List C&C smile fix - how I did it

Dan:

Congratulations on your new boat and welcome to the C&C list. Just about
anything you need advice on, you can get it here.

In my opinion, Bill Bina has provided you with one of the best methods
to deal with the 'C&C smile'.  It is pretty much the way we dealt with
ours when we acquired our boat in 2006.  Nine (9) sailing seasons later,
and there is no evidence of the 'smile'.

Previously, we did the same thing when we acquired a Kirby 25 before the
C&C 32 and the 'smile' never reappeared.

Good luck with your boat.  By the way, where do you sail from?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


On 2014/10/24 8:04 AM, Dan Mccorison via CnC-List wrote:
> Thanks bill
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 24, 2014, at 5:46 AM, Bill Bina via CnC-List
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I fixed mine about 10 years ago and it has remained completely fixed,
despite a few incidents of groundings. I cleaned out the joint mostly by
using a wire wheel chucked in a drill. That dug a channel all the way
along the length of the joint on both sides and around the leading edge.
>>
>> Then re-torqued the keel bolts to spec using a long handled 3/4 inch
drive torque wrench and a variety of extensions, adapters, and sockets
that I collected from a number of sources. I got the now dis-continued
torque wrench from Harbor Freight for around $100. The rest of the
sockets and stuff was a few hundred dollars. Heavy Equipment and truck
mechanics use this big stuff, so ask some of them where they buy tools
besides Snap-On, which is scary expensive. I know I got some of the deep
sockets from NAPA autoparts. They sell them individually, which is good,
because those big deep sizes aren't cheap! My boat has 3 different sized
bolts.
>>
>> Following re-torque adventure, I used a brass brush dipped in
un-thickened epoxy to clean and seal the exposed metal and fiberglass.
Next step was to fill the channel using Epoxy thickened to the
consistency of peanut butter. Then I used a sander with 80 grit paper to
clean an area all the way around extending about 10" above and 12" below
the joint, which I then "primed with the brass brush/un-thickened epoxy.
Followed that with several layers of fiberglass cloth soaked in slightly
thickened epoxy and wraped like a bandage extending about 10 inches
above and below the joint. Re-faired the keel and applied many coats of
interprotect 2000 to seal the surface. Reapplied the first coat of
micron extra before the final coat of interprotect cured. Previously I
had tried sealing the joint with various fillers including 5200, 4200,
Marinetex, Thickened epoxy with fibers. I got to try many fillers
because none of them lasted from launch to haul out of a single season.
>>
>> Bill Bina
>>
>>> On 10/24/2014 6:05 AM, DANIEL MCCORISON via CnC-List wrote:
>>> I just bought a 1975 C&C 25mk. It's my first sailboat I have owned.
Just wondering what is the best product to use to fix the C&C smile.
Also what is the procedure to go about fixing it?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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