The 25 is a very dry boat, perhaps because of the deck stepped mast. My 25
has never had an automatic bilge pump - only the Whale Gusher that came OEM.
Originally the ice box drained into the bilge, but I have routed the ice box
drain to a small hand pump next to the sink (which means no water or spilled
stuff in the bilge, and that I can use the melted ice for cold drinking
water if I don't spill anything). I normally need to clean the bilge with a
sponge, but after a period of heavy rain, a Nor'easter, or a hurricane I
might get a gallon or  so in the bilge and use the hand pump to put it
overside.


Rick Brass
Imzadi  C&C 38 mk 2
la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1
Washington, NC



-----Original Message-----
From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Petar
Horvatic via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 9:40 AM
To: 'Robert Abbott'; [email protected]; 'Dan Mccorison'; 'Bill Bina'
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C smile fix - how I did it

And if you are in the northern climate and are pulling the boat out for the
winter, add a garboard drain plug to let water out of the bildge before it
freezes and causes more cracks.

Petar Horvatic
Sundowner
76 C&C 38MkII
Newport, RI


 

-----Original Message-----
From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert
Abbott via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 9:26 AM
To: Dan Mccorison; [email protected]; Bill Bina
Subject: Stus-List C&C smile fix - how I did it

Dan:

Congratulations on your new boat and welcome to the C&C list. Just about
anything you need advice on, you can get it here.

In my opinion, Bill Bina has provided you with one of the best methods to
deal with the 'C&C smile'.  It is pretty much the way we dealt with ours
when we acquired our boat in 2006.  Nine (9) sailing seasons later, and
there is no evidence of the 'smile'.

Previously, we did the same thing when we acquired a Kirby 25 before the C&C
32 and the 'smile' never reappeared.

Good luck with your boat.  By the way, where do you sail from?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


On 2014/10/24 8:04 AM, Dan Mccorison via CnC-List wrote:
> Thanks bill
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 24, 2014, at 5:46 AM, Bill Bina via CnC-List
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I fixed mine about 10 years ago and it has remained completely fixed,
despite a few incidents of groundings. I cleaned out the joint mostly by
using a wire wheel chucked in a drill. That dug a channel all the way along
the length of the joint on both sides and around the leading edge.
>>
>> Then re-torqued the keel bolts to spec using a long handled 3/4 inch
drive torque wrench and a variety of extensions, adapters, and sockets that
I collected from a number of sources. I got the now dis-continued torque
wrench from Harbor Freight for around $100. The rest of the sockets and
stuff was a few hundred dollars. Heavy Equipment and truck mechanics use
this big stuff, so ask some of them where they buy tools besides Snap-On,
which is scary expensive. I know I got some of the deep sockets from NAPA
autoparts. They sell them individually, which is good, because those big
deep sizes aren't cheap! My boat has 3 different sized bolts.
>>
>> Following re-torque adventure, I used a brass brush dipped in
un-thickened epoxy to clean and seal the exposed metal and fiberglass. Next
step was to fill the channel using Epoxy thickened to the consistency of
peanut butter. Then I used a sander with 80 grit paper to clean an area all
the way around extending about 10" above and 12" below the joint, which I
then "primed with the brass brush/un-thickened epoxy. Followed that with
several layers of fiberglass cloth soaked in slightly thickened epoxy and
wraped like a bandage extending about 10 inches above and below the joint.
Re-faired the keel and applied many coats of interprotect 2000 to seal the
surface. Reapplied the first coat of micron extra before the final coat of
interprotect cured. Previously I had tried sealing the joint with various
fillers including 5200, 4200, Marinetex, Thickened epoxy with fibers. I got
to try many fillers because none of them lasted from launch to haul out of a
single season.
>>
>> Bill Bina
>>
>>> On 10/24/2014 6:05 AM, DANIEL MCCORISON via CnC-List wrote:
>>> I just bought a 1975 C&C 25mk. It's my first sailboat I have owned. 
>>> Just
wondering what is the best product to use to fix the C&C smile. Also what is
the procedure to go about fixing it?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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