Rob I sail from Duluth, Mn. Looking forward to asking questions, I'm sure I'll 
have a lot of them. Thanks for the nice welcome.

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> On Oct 24, 2014, at 11:17 AM, "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Ditto. Key is torquing the keelbolts. 
> 
> Pictures of Touché's smile are on the C&C photo album DIY section. Fix was 
> 1999. No issue since 
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touché 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
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>> On Oct 24, 2014, at 8:26 AM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Dan:
>> 
>> Congratulations on your new boat and welcome to the C&C list. Just about 
>> anything you need advice on, you can get it here.
>> 
>> In my opinion, Bill Bina has provided you with one of the best methods to 
>> deal with the 'C&C smile'.  It is pretty much the way we dealt with ours 
>> when we acquired our boat in 2006.  Nine (9) sailing seasons later, and 
>> there is no evidence of the 'smile'.
>> 
>> Previously, we did the same thing when we acquired a Kirby 25 before the C&C 
>> 32 and the 'smile' never reappeared.
>> 
>> Good luck with your boat.  By the way, where do you sail from?
>> 
>> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C&C 32 - 84
>> Halifax, N.S.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2014/10/24 8:04 AM, Dan Mccorison via CnC-List wrote:
>>> Thanks bill
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 24, 2014, at 5:46 AM, Bill Bina via CnC-List 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I fixed mine about 10 years ago and it has remained completely fixed, 
>>>> despite a few incidents of groundings. I cleaned out the joint mostly by 
>>>> using a wire wheel chucked in a drill. That dug a channel all the way 
>>>> along the length of the joint on both sides and around the leading edge.
>>>> 
>>>> Then re-torqued the keel bolts to spec using a long handled 3/4 inch drive 
>>>> torque wrench and a variety of extensions, adapters, and sockets that I 
>>>> collected from a number of sources. I got the now dis-continued torque 
>>>> wrench from Harbor Freight for around $100. The rest of the sockets and 
>>>> stuff was a few hundred dollars. Heavy Equipment and truck mechanics use 
>>>> this big stuff, so ask some of them where they buy tools besides Snap-On, 
>>>> which is scary expensive. I know I got some of the deep sockets from NAPA 
>>>> autoparts. They sell them individually, which is good, because those big 
>>>> deep sizes aren't cheap! My boat has 3 different sized bolts.
>>>> 
>>>> Following re-torque adventure, I used a brass brush dipped in un-thickened 
>>>> epoxy to clean and seal the exposed metal and fiberglass. Next step was to 
>>>> fill the channel using Epoxy thickened to the consistency of peanut 
>>>> butter. Then I used a sander with 80 grit paper to clean an area all the 
>>>> way around extending about 10" above and 12" below the joint, which I then 
>>>> "primed with the brass brush/un-thickened epoxy. Followed that with 
>>>> several layers of fiberglass cloth soaked in slightly thickened epoxy and 
>>>> wraped like a bandage extending about 10 inches above and below the joint. 
>>>> Re-faired the keel and applied many coats of interprotect 2000 to seal the 
>>>> surface. Reapplied the first coat of micron extra before the final coat of 
>>>> interprotect cured. Previously I had tried sealing the joint with various 
>>>> fillers including 5200, 4200, Marinetex, Thickened epoxy with fibers. I 
>>>> got to try many fillers because none of them lasted from launch to haul 
>>>> out of a single season.
>>>> 
>>>> Bill Bina
>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/24/2014 6:05 AM, DANIEL MCCORISON via CnC-List wrote:
>>>>> I just bought a 1975 C&C 25mk. It's my first sailboat I have owned. Just 
>>>>> wondering what is the best product to use to fix the C&C smile. Also what 
>>>>> is the procedure to go about fixing it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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