I +1 the idea of snap shackles at the ends of the mainsheet tackle.

 

If you use the main sheet tackle for lifting it makes sense to use the main 
halyard to support the boom (preferably lifting the boom out of horizontal to 
raise the MOB over the lifelines).

 

Marek

 

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Sent: September-17-15 22:15
To: C&C List
Cc: Josh Muckley
Subject: Re: Stus-List - Inflable life jacket - inflation

 

I've had very good results using the main sheet as a lifting tackle.  A snap 
shackle came rigged to the traveler car by the PO.   I pop the snap shackle off 
the traveler and hand it down to the MOB or the helper.  Make the shackle and 
then mainsheet the victim in.  I can see that it may be challenging and have 
various levels of success on different boats.  It gave me a lot of confidence. 

One thing to consider is a how to "clip" the victim on if they are 
incapacitated.  There are kong caribbeaners that deploy from the end of an 
appropriate boat hook.  This is my plan. 

The drooped rope and primary winch trick was Practical Sailor's first choice 
for a conscious victim.  Clearly methods work better or worse on different 
boats. 

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk 
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD 

On Sep 17, 2015 10:01 PM, "Jim Reinardy via CnC-List" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

The theory for getting her back on board was interesting.  The boat is an 
Ericson Cruising 36 with very high topsides and no swim ladder.  We tied off a 
line on a stern dockline cleat, draped the line in the water and loaded the 
other end on a winch.   The boat owner was hoping she could stand on the line 
and just get pulled up on the winch.  In practice, we had a difficult time 
getting her to a point where she could do this.  We had a lifesling with the 
tackle on board if we had needed it.

 

I have a lifesling on my boat, but not the lifting tackle.  I am thinking 
harder about making that an offseason purchase.  Thanks for the thoughtful 
replies, everyone!

 

Jim

Sent from my iPad


On Sep 17, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List 
<[email protected]> wrote:

I did a safety at sea course, which involved spending some quality time in the 
pool wearing full gear and my PFD (inflated).  I found it difficult to maneuver 
with it fully inflated, but could let some out and was able to do the required 
stuff (swim, climb into the liferaft) with it on.  For me a crotch strap add-on 
does make it easier as it keeps things lower, I tried it both ways.

As for re-boarding, a ladder isn't much good if it does not get a couple of 
rungs under water - not many of us can lift our body weight and wet gear up 
with our arms, when already exhausted.  We also bought a lifesling and have 
tackle ready in case someone has to be hoisted aboard.



Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11

On 2015-09-17 2:53 PM, Jim Reinardy via CnC-List wrote:

This is a bit of a tangent, but I wanted to get some feedback on a recent event 
in our marina that has a lot of us talking.

 

We have some friends that own a cruising boat.  The wife has been a little 
hesitant about sailing in part because of poor swimming ability causing a 
general fear of water.  She decided to confront her fears head on by 
volunteering to do a live person overboard drill.  We got a bunch of people on 
board their boat and enlisted a smaller boat as a chase boat.  She put on an 
inflatable life jacket with an expiring sensor and jumped in the water in the 
harbor.  It was at the end of a stretch of hot weather so there were fewer 
fears about hypothermia and the waves were negligible, which is as good as it 
gets for Lake Michigan.  

 

The PFD inflated immediately and brought her to the surface just fine, but she 
found that the inflated bladder pretty much immobilized her.  She could not 
lift her head properly or move her arms to maneuver to the throwables in the 
water.  One of the people in the chase boat ultimately jumped in to get her 
over to her boat and we got her back up on deck, but it was a more tense 
process than any of us expected.  Our friend confronting her fears was actually 
satisfied with the result, she was able to remain calm and ultimately got back 
on the boat without injury, but it raised some doubts about inflatable PFD’s 
with the rest of us.

 

Anyone have experience with actually deploying an inflatable PFD?  Were you 
able to maneuver?  Did you need to partially deflate the bladder?

 

As a side note, we have gone looking for a good quality non-inflatable PFD with 
a harness and crotch strap, which is becoming a requirement for some races now 
and pretty much came up empty at this point.

 

Thanks,

 

Jim Reinardy

C&C 30-2 “Firewater”

Milwaukee, WI 

 

 

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From: Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 5:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Kevin Driscoll
Subject: Re: Stus-List - Inflable life jacket with harness recommendation

 

 

My Kong tether has snap shackle for self eject.

 

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:53 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
<[email protected]> wrote:

don't forget to sign up for the PYacht email list before you place your order 
and they'll give a 5% off code on a purchase over $100

 

five bucks is five bucks!



---------- Original Message ----------
From: Indigo via CnC-List <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Cc: Indigo <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stus-List - Inflable life jacket with harness recommendation

Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 08:28:37 -0400

I don't recall - one of the early posts on the subject. At the price of these 
at pyacht I might be tempted to replace my "spare" old style tethers. 

--

Jonathan 

Indigo C&C 35III

SOUTHPORT CT


On Sep 16, 2015, at 08:03, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
<[email protected]> wrote:

Mine does.  Which one are you looking at?  I’ve got the “Y” tether with one 
six-foot leg and one three-foot leg; both of those have the positive-action 
carabiners.  The harness end has a snap shackle with a pull-lanyard.  Like 
this: http://www.pyacht.com/cgi-bin/pagegen.pl?pr+kng283sete.htm 

 

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

 

On Sep 15, 2015, at 10:29 PM, Indigo via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote:

I am surprised to see that the Kong tether as illustrated does not have a 
snap-shackle for use at the harness end to enable quick disconnect if needed.  
With any tension, you'd need to cut the tether in order to get free if you 
were, say, trapped under water. 

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